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Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
WHETMAN Harriet Louisa Kingston

Birth 1864 Kingston
Whetman Georgina Mary

with parents in 1871 ( and not after I have parents with other children etc to 1911)

Name: Harriet Whitman ( Whetman)
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Long Ditton, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Kingston On Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 225
Household Members: Name Age
James Whitman 33
Ann Whitman 33
Harriet Whitman 7
Georgina Whitman 6
Mary Whitman 2
Francis Woodcock 43
Frederick Barnsley 23

Georg'e'na Whitman is a servant in Kingston on 1881 but i can't find Harriet in 1881, neither of them in 1891. No marriage or deaths for either?!

Any help greatfully received :)) eyes are going fuzzy lol

Possible for Georgina in 1891...



1891 England Census
about Georgena Langford
Name: Georgena Langford
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Long Ditton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:...29 Excelsior? Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Georgena Langford 26...Head...Widow
Georgena Langford 1...Norbiton?, Surrey





Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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GREAVES Minona Annie Kingston 2a 519
>>>LANGFORD Robert Kingston 2a 519
Weir James Christopher Kingston 2a 519
>>>Whatman Georgina M Kingston 2a 519

Thanks Christina, looks very likely ...I have been through so many Whetman/whitman/whitemans...didn't think of Whatman lol

Isn't this Harriet? I think her age may be mistranscribed.

1891 England Census
Name: Harriet Daws [Harriet Whetman] <<<<<<<
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston On Thames, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Brentford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Whetman 53
Jane Whetman 52
Charles Daws 23
Harriet Daws 16
Elizabeth L Whetman 15
Albert Daws 4

1891 England Census
about Georgena Langford
Name: Georgena Langford
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Long Ditton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Georgena Langford 26 Head, Widow
Georgena Langford 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 609; Folio 87; Page 33; GSU roll: 6095719.

Ozi sorry was just about to post re that Harriet...she is in fact Harriet Daws the daughter from first marriage of Jane Whetman as per 1871 .... because i have corrected the spelling of Whetman on that census it seems to also have changed her to Whetman too :(

to clarify there are 2 Harriets ...Harriet Daws and Harriet Whetman

???

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
GREAVES Minona Annie Kingston 2a 519 Scan available - click to view
LANGFORD Robert Kingston 2a 519 Scan available - click to view
Weir James Christopher Kingston 2a 519 Scan available - click to view
Whatman Georgina M Kingston 2a 519 Scan available - click to view

Robert's Death Registration:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Langford Robert 27 Knighton (Kingston) 11b 213


Second marriage for Georgina:

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Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Langford Georgina Mary Kingston 2a 648
Lunn Charles Kingston 2a 648

Possible death registration for Georgina:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Georgina M Lunn
Name: Georgina M Lunn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1929
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 606

I wonder if this is her and her age was incorrectly typed up onto the index...unfortunately the only way to be sure would be to buy the death cert.


Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
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WHETMAN Harriet Louisa 50 Brentford 3a 48

At least it eliminates her, Rose.

Ozi

Christina, i looked at her but found her on previous census married to a George Whetman right age and location .

I think?!

1861 England Census
about Harriet Louisa Wetman
Name: Harriet Louisa Wetman
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Wetman 44
Harriet Louisa Wetman 36


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England Census
about Georgina M Lumn
Name: Georgina M Lumn
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Thames Ditton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Greenford
Ecclesiastical parish: Greenford Holy Cross
Town: Greenford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Lumn 47
Georgina M Lumn 37
Georgina M Lumn 12
Purey A Lumn 3 (Percy Albert)
George Hirams 43 Boarder, Adderbury, Oxfordshire


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1206; Folio: 118; Page: 16.



September 1898
LUNN Percy Albert Brentford 3a 65

I looked on the 1871 and couldn't see her...didn't think to check the1861.

Thanks for that Pam :)

Possible marriage for daughter Georgina

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Langford Georgina M Bethnal G 1c 366
MORGAN Joseph A C Bethnal G 1c 366
Tilyard Lilian M Bethnal G. 1c 366

One spouse missing from list

I think this is possibly Georgina's (born 1890) marriage:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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ENGLISH Herbert R ( Tattam) Bethnal G 1c 366a
Tattam Georgina M (English) Bethnal Green 1c 366A


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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English May L Langford Bethnal G. 1c 276

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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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English Herbert W Langford W.Ham 4a 599


Perhaps Georgina was raised by the Tattam family.

Thanks for that Pam I will look into it a bit more...

still no sign of Harriet louisa Whetman though

quick nudge in case anyone is inspired tonight :)