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Would like to hear from anyone with knowledge of a Perkins family who emigrated from the port of Dundee aboard the vessel Panmure arriving in NSW in 1887. They had a daughter Frances who may be my mysteriously missing GGmum. thanks.

More details please - parents names or any d.o.b

Is this the family in question there dose not seem to be details of ages only for the crew


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Alexander Perkins Sydney, New South Wales 10 Aug 1887 Panmure
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Frances Perkins Sydney, New South Wales 10 Aug 1887 Panmure
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Hannah Perkins Sydney, New South Wales 10 Aug 1887 Panmure
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Harry Perkins Sydney, New South Wales 10 Aug 1887 Panmure
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Thos H Perkins Sydney, New South Wales 10 Aug 1887 Panmure

Thanks Clitheroelass,

I will go with that for the time being, it looks as if they were all siblings

Registration No: 6610
Year: 1890
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Alexander J
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Bell
Spouses Given Name: Ida D
Place of Marriage: Scone

Registration No: 3885
Year: 1891
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Alexander D
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Alexander J
Mothers Given Names: Ida D
Birthplace: Woollahra

Registration No: 33156
Year: 1893
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Robert A
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Alexander J
Mothers Given Names: Ida D
Birthplace: St. Leonards

Registration No: 21958
Year: 1894
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Ida G
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Alexander J
Mothers Given Names: Ida D
Birthplace: Mosman

Possible Death of Alexander
Registration No: 14951
Year: 1958
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Alexander John
Event: Death
Fathers Given Names: Thomas
Mothers Given Name: Delia
Deathplace: Gundagi

Registration No: 2400
Year: 1888
Surname: Johnson
Given Names: Frederick W
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Hannah
Place: Petersham

Registration No: 24893
Year: 1890
Surname: Johnson
Given Names: Ida M
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Frederick W
Mothers Given Names: Hannah L
Birthplace: Petersham

Registration No: 2484
Year: 1892
Surname: Johnson
Given Names: Gladys H
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Frederick W
Mothers Given Names: Hannah L
Birthplace: Sydney

Registration No: 3301
Year: 1915
Surname: Dagnall
Given Names: Georges P H S O
Event: Marriage
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Frances H C
Place: St. Leonards

Registration No: 20677
Year: 1937
Surname: Dagnall
Given Names: Hilda Frances Carr
Event: Death
Fathers Surname: Perkins
Age: 49
Deathplace: Sydney

Registration No: 4404
Year: 1904
Surname: Perkins
Given Names: Thomas
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Murphy
Given Names: Frances F
Place: Murrurundi

Alexander Douglas Perkins Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 17 AUG 1891

Christening: 06 JUN 1893 St Luke'S Church, Scone, New South Wales, Australia
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Parents:
Father: Alexander John Perkins Family
Mother: Ida Douglas
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

ALEXANDER JOHN PERKINS Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: IDA DOUGLAS BELL Family
Marriage: 29 SEP 1890 St Luke, Scone, New South Wales, Australia

Donna,

Can you please disregard the information on Francis Perkins & George Dagnall, she is to young.

Thank you all but i am still lost. Frances Lucia Bennett nee Perkins was my GG mum. We can locate no records for her. No B, D or M and also no B for her daughter (my gran). She is listed in the Electoral Roll for Eden Monaro 1903 but 'disappeared' between then and when my gran married in 1913. My Gran was born 1893 so have to assume Frances born about 1870ish. Not even sure what nationality she was as noone living met her. Was hopng the passenger listing - only one i can find- would lead me to her or she was on someone elses tree already. Any ideas?? I have hit a major wall with this one!

Hi Donna,

Can you advise what your grandmothers name was (we may be able to work backwards)

Cheers

Rachelle

Donna, you still aren't giving enough info I'm afraid.

Your gran was born in 1893. Where? Her name? Her father's name?

There's no Bennett birth in 1893 in NSW with mother Frances. Or Perkins.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingBirth.cgi

Do you know when and where Frances died? when and where your grandmother died?

Who is with Frances on the 1903 electoral roll (if anyone)?

Are your grandmother's parents' names stated on her marriage record?

Is this your grandmother by any chance?

death
23668/1970
MEAD LYDIA LOUISA
father JOSEPH
[mother not stated] AGED 77 YRS [= 1893]
district BEGA

marriage
920/1913
MEAD JAMES S
BENNETT LYDIA L
BEGA


That would seem to match with a 1952 marriage that would be your parents?

Unfortunately, if so, the hoped-for info isn't there: her mother's name.


And if so, any chance this is her husband?

Births Mar 1884
Mead James Samson Holborn 1b 713

1881 census

Civil parish: Handsworth
County/Island: Staffordshire
reg dist West Bromwich

Robert Perkins 49 - occupation jeweller
Hannah Perkins 52
> Francis Perkins 22 (female) - born Birmingham
Robert Perkins 19
Alfred Perkins 18
Walter Perkins 16
> Alexander Perkins 15
> Hannah Perkins 14
> Harry Perkins 11


This has to be the family of siblings who emigrated in 1887.


1871 in Birmingham:

Robert A Perkins 38
Hannah Perkins 42
Charles W Perkins 15
Frances A Perkins 12
Frederick T Perkins 11
Robert A Perkins 9
Alfred H Perkins 8
Walter I Perkins 6 *
Alexander I Perkins 5 *
Hannah L Perkins 4
Harry E Perkins 5 months
Esther C Skerrett 22
Margaret Briggs 21

* I make those initials J, not I.

Two people have in their trees here at GR:

Walter James Perkins
1864
BIRMINGHAM West Midlands England


Births Jun 1858
Perkins Frances Adelaide Birmingham 6d 189

Yes ... you have this person in your tree:

Lydia Bennett
1892
Bodalla NSW, South Coast - New South Wales, Australia


How much easier it would have been with that info ...


Do you suppose there's any chance that this is your Lydia in someone's tree here:

Lydia Perkins
1889
Gympie, Queensland, Australia

and that her mother subsequently married Bennett in Queensland, which is why there is the absence from records for that period?

hI jANEY,

I checked the QLD birth records for Lydia Louise Perkins and the one born in Gympie, QLD shows parents as Frederick Perkins and Louisa Bosetta Keyser. There is also a sibling May Lydia born in 1894.

Lydia Louise Perkins died in 1894 so can't be the one you suggested as a possiblilty.

Regards

Rachelle

Ta, Rachelle!

Gotta rule out all the non-starters. ;)

Nudging for Donna...hopefully you'll see the replies

No probs Janey

Yes ... some acknowledgement would certainly be nice ...

Thank you Janey - sorry i didnt give you info re gran. The info you have found re: Lydia Louisa Bennett is my gran. Born 1883 apparently in Bodalla NSW. Apparently an only child, Her father was joseph bennett. Her M cert listed joseph and frances perkins as her parents. (I have the original 1913 cert) As i said before we have no BDMs at all for Frances Lucia Bennett/Perkins. She is listed in 1903 as Bennett with Joseph Bennett living in Bermagui NSW. After this she literally 'disapeared' off the face of the earth. There may have been some scandal - my elderly aunt thinks she may have 'run off'. My grandmother never spoke of her mother and my mum and her siblings never met nor heard about her. The bennett line traces back to the Shoalhaven area around Terara.

sorry i'm not acknowledging fast enough, ladies! I am not on here very often...doing the best i can to keep up. Your help is appreciated especially from interstate.

if the Frances from Birmingham was Frances Adelaide then she is not the one. Pity - thought i might have been on to something. Does anyone have access to records from Victoria?