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Susan

Susan Report 19 May 2010 11:13

Looking for mother of Cyril Henry Clark, he was born feb 1898 died in chelmsford 1981. Marriage certificate states his father as Henry William Clark and occupation carman for both. Think i found Birth index for Cyril Henry Born in Blaby,Leicester,want to get his birth certificate but hit brick wall on father and mother, on the cencus they seem to use middle names which confuse me.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:17

Maybe??

Name: Cyril Clark
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Hy
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
William Hy Clark 42 Vestry Carman
Matilda Clark 43
Arthur Clark 19
William H Clark 13
Albert Clark 12
Mabel Clark 10
Reynold O Clark 6
Cyril Clark 3


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1250; Folio: 61; Page: 18.

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:22

That Cyril seems to be Cyril Edwin Rootgatherer -

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Clark Cyril Edwin Edmonton 3a 386

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:23

Is this the birth that you found please? So is his name just Cyril?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Clark Cyril Blaby 7a 26

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:26

The death says he was born in 1892!!

Sorry - my mistake, I got the wrong one.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:26

Thanks Christine - I was just checking that out. So it is not that family. Will have another look at the census.

Susan, do you know where he was born or is that Leicestershire one the only like one that you can see on Freebmd?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:27

Ah! Well now that may make a difference Christine!

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:28

Sorry rootgather, just added that I got the wrong one *embarrassed blush*

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:31

No problem Christine but I'm still not seeing any Cyril jumping out of the census at me!

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:31

I think this is the birth that Susan is referring to -

Births Mar 1899
Clarke Cyril Henry Leicester 7a 266

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:42

Well the nearest one I can find for that one in 1901 is Henry Clark with father William but he's a shoe clicker lol:)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:43

That one would be about a year out but then ages / birthdates on death certificates are only as good as the informants knowledge.

We need Susan to come back and help us out here!

It would be useful to know where he married and to whom.

Also, Susan you say that they use middle names on census. Can you post the census information that you have please?

Maybe he wasn't born a Clark- Clark could be a stepfather's surname as there is no obvious birth appearing.

Susan

Susan Report 19 May 2010 11:48

Sorry took to long to reply had a problem with the washing machine, didn,t think about Clarke with a E I'll have another look and see. Can not get any further untill i find him and parents cheers.

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 11:53

Hi Susan
I assume that you are positive that the death you have is the right Cyril Henry Clark?
Perhaps it would be better to tell us what the earliest thing is that you are absolutely certain of.
Chris

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 May 2010 11:54

Susan - do you know where he was born please?

Have you found him on any census records please?

Susan

Susan Report 19 May 2010 11:57

Couldn,t find my cencus, but Cyril Henry Clark Married Olive Gertrude Punt In August 1923 In Prittlewell Essex, last known area they were living in Ramsden Heath area.

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 12:01

So I imagine this is her death ?

Olive Gertrude Clark
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1659

and her birth -
Births Sep 1901 PUNT Olive Gertrude Rochford 4a 714

Christine2

Christine2 Report 19 May 2010 12:03

Was she 22 on the marriage cert? and how old was Cyril on the cert please?

Susan

Susan Report 19 May 2010 12:07

Death index Dec 1981 chelmsford vol 9 pg 1775. also Olive Gertrude Mar 1974 chelmsford vol 4a pg 1659. But still can not find him on cencus.

Susan

Susan Report 19 May 2010 12:09

Marriage certificate states cyril was 24 and olive was 22, and yes that is her death .