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Margaret Elizabeth

Margaret Elizabeth Report 10 Mar 2016 16:56

thank you for your reply...will look on websites suggested xxxx

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 11 Mar 2016 01:48

Ancestry has Thomas King , wife Florence, children William Edward and Florence.
Married St Stephen's Hulme. on 5th Nov 1910.
Joined up with the King's Liverpool Regiment . Aged 24yrs 9mths
Discharged 29-4-18 after receiving a gun shot wound to the head in France
Service No;- 738282

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Mar 2016 05:29

here is that record that Elizabeth posted .......... it is under the Pension Records

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Name: Thomas King
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1891
Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1910
Marriage Place: St Stephens, Hulme
Age: 24
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 51 Wood St Hulme Manchester
Regimental Number: 738282
Regiment Name: The King's (Liverpool) Regiment
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 16
Other Records: Search for 'Thomas King' in other WWI collections

Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Thomas King Self (Head)
Florence Bell Spouse
William Edward King Child
Florence King Child


from image:-

Occupation:- Carter

William Edward King b. 17-03-1911
Florence King b. 23-08-1913
May King b. 12-05-1916

Wounded Gun Shot Wound Head 19-07-17
Rejoined Battalion 09-08-1917
Sent to Rest Camp 08-10-1917
Moved to Field Hospital 11-10-1917 ----- Bronchitis
Transferred to England

Discharged as Unfit for Service 22-03-1918
Reason - Bronchitis

Awarded a small pension until 1920


He was awarded the Victory and War Medals

mgnv

mgnv Report 11 Mar 2016 17:17

1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9JF-DGC
[so FS/FMP give Jane's age as 37
NB 1901 resident in (Manchester) Central subdistrict]

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1891 KING Thomas Salford Greengate Salford GRE/157/9
1893 KING James E Central Archives+, Manchester Central Library BLACKMORE CEN/27/32
1895 KING Annie Central Archives+, Manchester Central Library BLACKMORE CEN/32/4
1897 KING Edward Central Archives+, Manchester Central Library BLACKMORE CEN/36/37
1899 KING Elizabeth Central Archives+, Manchester Central Library BLACKMORE CEN/40/90

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KING Edward BLACKMORE Jane Salford Sacred Trinity Salford C24/2/325


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KING Thomas BELL Florence Elizabeth Hulme, St. Stephen Manchester 72/5/82

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM1S-1ZS
[Flo was d/o William]
A search at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2962 will get this m.cert
Unfortunately, they only go to 1882 (ref C24/1/500) for Salford Sacred Trinity.
(Ref C24/1/500 is the last entry in the 1st register for that church, and we need ref C24/2/325 i.e., entry 325 in the 2nd rego - anyways, to go back further, I think you'll need to purchase this m.cert.)


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If you found out (from Thos's pension record or maybe his medal card) exactly which battalion Thos served in, then even though you can't find what Thos was doing day by day, you can find that out for his unit via its war diary.
The Liverpool Regt had many bn's, each with difft war-time service - see:
http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/kings-liverpool-regiment/

Many local libraries have an Ancestry sub - my municipality does, as do 3 of the 4 neighbouring municipalities,
To access war diaries - go to:
Ancestry - Card Catalogue
keyword = war diaries
click on france & belgium (rarely Gallipoli)
then unit = king's (Liverpool) Regiment
subunit = 2/5th battalion - (or whatever unit)

My library limits computer access to two 1 hr sessions per day.
I found I could download 90p per hr (if I didn't read them).
Just before I get timed out, I email stuff to myself so I can read them at home.
The following two tips are useful.
1) Go to start button - my documents - download (or wherever it puts them) then highlight a block of 20 (or so) pages, then right-click - send to - A compressed (zipped) folder.
Put all the images into zipped folders - I limit the size of each zipped folder to 15MB - then I email each folder to myself in a seperate email.
(It's a lot easier to send 4-5 attachments than 90)
2) Go to start button - all programs - accessories - then double click on notepad
(it's a primitive word processor)
I copy and paste notes, Ancestry transcriptions, etc., into this document.
The first time, I pick - File - Save As (and name the document as Notes=2016-03-11.txt or whatever).
After each subsequent entry, I click on -File - Save. I email this file to myself too.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 11 Mar 2016 21:04

If the Edward King - Jane Blackmore marriage is correct looks like she died in 1902 then Edward married a Beatrice Sykes in 1907 - they are together on the 1911 census with Edward & Jane's children

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Mar 2016 23:26

Other children of Thomas and Florence

Charles, b. 1919

Thomas b.1921

Lily b.1923

all above born Hulme, registered Chorlton

4 more with same surnames registered Manchester South between 1925 and 1933 could possibly be Thomas and Florence's children

Margaret Elizabeth

Margaret Elizabeth Report 29 Mar 2016 15:31

oh thank you so much everyone...been off the site for a while so this was all a lovely suprise xx