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I am struggling to find Frederick Lewis Groves born 1818 marylebone on the 1841, 1851, 1871 census............plus also his marriage to Mary Ann.
The family seem to be born have their children all in Marylebone.

1861 England Census
about Frederick L Groves
Name: Frederick L Groves
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 459
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick L Groves 43
Mary Ann Groves 37
Elizabeth Groves 16
Hannah Groves 13
Rebecca Groves 11
Emma Groves 9
Mary Groves 7
Sarah Groves 3


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So this is the one you do have?

1861 England Census
Name: Frederick L Groves
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 459
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick L Groves 43
Mary Ann Groves 37
Elizabeth Groves 16
Hannah Groves 13
Rebecca Groves 11
Emma Groves 9
Mary Groves 7
Sarah Groves 3

1851 England Census
Name: Frederick L Georges
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 42 Henry Street

Occupation: Fish & Fruit Seller

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick L Georges 35
Mary Ann Georges 25 - Laundress
Elizabeth Georges 7
Hannah Georges 4
Rebecca Groves 1

yep, thats the one I have..........he then seems to vanish! great thats 1851 sorted!

1871 England Census
about Fredk L Grover
Name: Fredk L Grover
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 323
Household Members: Name Age
Fredk L Grover 55
Mary Ann Grover 49
Sarah R Grover 14

Do you have this?

1881 England Census
Name: Fredk.L. Groves
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Charles Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Mangler
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredk.L. Groves 68
Mary A. Groves 57 - Mangler
Mary A. Groves 27 - Mangler
Sarah E. Groves 24
Rebecca Brewer 10

or this?

1891 England Census
Name: Frederick Groves
Age: 83
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 69 Henry St

Occupation: none recorded

Condition as to marriage: widower

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Groves 83

1841 England Census
about Frederick Grover
Name: Frederick Grover
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Rectory
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Rogers 64
James Rogers 13
William Lebaston 2
Sarah Rogers 46
Joseph Edwards 50
Frederick Grover 22 <<Labourer
James Mears 36
Frederick Mears 17
George Skinner 26
Catherine Skinner 22
George Stumm 1 6 Mo
Thomas Brinsonn 43
Thomas Brinsonn 21
Charles Brinsonn 19
William Brinsonn 15
George Brinsonn 14
Sarah Brinsonn 45
Frederick Brinsonn 10
Sarah Brinsonn 6
Louisa Brinsonn 17


Looking at the image it says Groves

you guys are soooo fast!............how about their marriage!!!

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederick Lewis Groves
Name: Frederick Lewis Groves
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 1 Apr 1818
Father's Name: Frederick Lewis Groves
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Groves
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

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oh no Ginny....................his parents were also Frederick Lewis Groves and Mary Ann................how odd

No thats not odd hun...just no imagination!

There are a number of marriage possibles but none with his second name

Have a look on www.freebmd.org

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Sophia Frances Groves, no doubt a sister was baptised on the same day. Fathers occupation not listed

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Looks like you'll have to get one of the children's birth cert's to get his wife's name.

Births Dec 1849
GROVES Rebecca Marylebone 1 187

looks like Frederick Lewis Groves married Mary Ann Grey.........can anyone help me find their marriage

Is this information from a child's birth cert?

Ozi

I know this doesn't help but thought you might be interested.

Name: Elizabeth Groves
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 22 Apr 1844
Baptism/Christening Place: WORKHOUSE CHAPEL,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1844
Father's Name: Frederick Groves
Mother's Name: Mary Ann

Looks like they had a little boy.

Births Dec 1862
GROVES Frederick Lewis Marylebone 1a 481
Deaths Dec 1862
GROVES Frederick Lewis Marylebone 1a 397

It looks to me like they never married.

As Ozi says you will need a copy of one of the childrens birth to find out who his common law wife was

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I now have a birth cert for his daughter. It does states her parents as Frederick Lewis Groves and Mary Ann Groves formerly Gray..............so can anyone help me find their marriage