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28 Jun 2010 15:01 |
Does anyone have access to the London England Deaths and Burials 1813-1980, if so could you do a look up for the death of Eleanor Sophia Duncan and see if she is on there. She was born in 1864 and believed to have died between 1901 and 1911. My subscription to Ancestry does not allow me access as I am only a basic member, I have tried all other avenues to find a death for her, this is my last hope, unless someone can add an extra pair of eyes to the England & Wales Death Index.. Her maiden name was Peart and she was born in West Hartlepool, Durham. Thanks Chris
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28 Jun 2010 15:32 |
Not finding any entry in that name
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28 Jun 2010 15:34 |
Where was she in 1901?
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28 Jun 2010 15:36 |
1901 is this her?
Name: Eleanor Duncan Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Alexander J Gender: Female Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: West Hartlepool Ecclesiastical parish: Stranton All Saints Town: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 57 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age Alexander J Duncan 38 Eleanor Duncan 38 Mark A Duncan 13 Esther Duncan 12 Robert W Duncan 11 Eleanor M Duncan 9 William H Duncan 7 Norman G Duncan 5 Elizabeth J Duncan 4 Edna Duncan 2 Albert E Duncan 2 months
Have you found the husband and children in 1911
1911?? DUNCAN, Alexander John Head Married M 48 1863 Stockrtaker Steel Trade Middlesborough Yorks VIEW DUNCAN, Eleanor Wife Married 25 years F 49 1862 Hartlepool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Mark A Son Single M 23 1888 Engineer Nautical W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Robert Watson Son Single M 21 1890 Ships Plumber W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Eleanor Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, William Henry Son Single M 17 1894 Labourer Steel Trade W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Norman Goodhall Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Elizabeth J Daughter Single F 14 1897 W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Edna Daughter Single F 12 1899 W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Albert Edward Son M 10 1901 W Hpool Durham VIEW DUNCAN, Edith Daughter F 6 1905 W Hpool Durham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 29639 Reference: RG14PN29639 RG78PN1718B RD545 SD1 ED39 SN28 Registration District: Hartlepool Sub District: Hartlepool Enumeration District: 39 Parish: West Hartlepool Address: 147 Burbank St West Hartlepool
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28 Jun 2010 15:38 |
The family in 1891
Henry Duncan Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellanor S Gender: Male Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Duncan 29 Ellanor S Duncan 27 Isabella B Duncan 8 George W Duncan 6 Robert Hy Duncan 3 Amy N Peart 14 Albert Victor Duncan 6/12
The two youngest children are with an aunt in 1901
Albert V Duncan Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: N Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Robert Duncan 68 John Barker 48 Isabella Barker 40 Robert H Duncan 14 Albert V Duncan 10
Henry her husband (shipwright) is with the elder son George.
Henry Duncan Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: West Hartlepool Ecclesiastical parish: West Hartlepool Christchurch County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 212 Household Members: Name Age W J Lawrence 40 J E Lawrence 33 W J Lawrence 13 A J Lawrence 9 B M Lawrence 8 J Lawrence 2 Henry Duncan 39 George Duncan 16
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28 Jun 2010 15:41 |
Okay so I am barking up the wrong tree with the family I am looking at
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28 Jun 2010 15:42 |
Oops should have looked for the marriage first
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUNCAN Henry Hartlepool 10a 165 PEART Eleanor Sophia Hartlepool 10a 165 Proctor Thomas Hartlepool 10a 165 ROBINSON Hannah Jane Hartlepool 10a 165
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28 Jun 2010 15:43 |
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
DUNCAN Henry Hartlepool 10a 165 PEART Eleanor Sophia Hartlepool 10a 165 Proctor Thomas Hartlepool 10a 165 ROBINSON Hannah Jane Hartlepool 10a 165
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28 Jun 2010 15:44 |
1891 England Census about Ellanor S Duncan Name: Ellanor S Duncan Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: West Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Duncan 29 Ellanor S Duncan 27 Isabella B Duncan 8 George W Duncan 6 Robert Hy Duncan 3 Amy N Peart 14 Albert Victor Duncan 6/12
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Ozqld
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28 Jun 2010 15:47 |
Thanks Astra & Glitter Baby
This is the 1891 Census for the family I am tracing:
Name: Ellanor S Duncan Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: West Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Duncan 29 Ellanor S Duncan 27 Isabella F Duncan 8 George W Duncan 6 Robert Henry Duncan 3 Amy V Peart 14 Albert Victor Duncan 6/12
The family seems split up on the 1901 Census, the husband and son are in a boarding house together although he is still listed as married and not a widower. The other children are with relatives either aunts or uncles. I cannot find Eleanor anywhere on the 1901 and can't find a death for her either. Is it possible she was sickly in hospital maybe even terminally ill or dying. I would still think that people in institutions or hospitals would have to be on Census somewhere?
Hope this extra info helps you to help me, I'm at my wits end. Thanks Chris
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28 Jun 2010 15:48 |
edited incorrect
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Astra
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28 Jun 2010 15:50 |
Thanks Chris. Think we have found all of that but it's her death that is the missing link. Unless of course she just left home.
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GlitterBaby
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28 Jun 2010 15:52 |
Struggling with this one as not found a possible in 1901 or 1911 nor a death
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Ozqld
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28 Jun 2010 15:53 |
I'm afraid Rambling Rose I'm not sure of anything but her husband Henry is showing up on the 1901 in some sort of boarding house with the eldest son George W. and Henry her husband is listed as married not a widower so I have assumed that she was alive in 1901. Perhaps I should see if someone can find her on the 1911.
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28 Jun 2010 15:57 |
This is just a thought as i had come across something similar, there is no way of confirming...but if nothing else is found might be worth thinking about. The asylums tend to just use initials...and it does say 'single' so hopefully it isn't her
1901 England Census about E D Name: E D Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Civil parish: Sedgefield Ecclesiastical parish: Sedgefield St Edmund Town: Sedgefield County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Sedgefield Sub-registration district: Sedgefield ED, institution, or vessel: Durham County Lunatic Asylum
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Astra
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28 Jun 2010 16:01 |
Can't trace either of them in 1911 but i think Henry died in 1909.
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Ozqld
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28 Jun 2010 16:05 |
Now that is something to think about Rambling Rose.
The only other thing I can think of is, the family seem to be in employment as Shipwrights, would it be possible she booked a passage and fled the country, possibly to America. Do they have records of passengers for that time period between 1891 & 1911?
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Rambling
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28 Jun 2010 16:09 |
There is a Henry Duncan on Photos on Ancestry, private tree do you know about that Chris?
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28 Jun 2010 16:11 |
No I didn't know about the Ancestry photo's, I will go on later and see if I can find the tree.
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28 Jun 2010 16:11 |
there are some Eleanor Duncans in US passenger lists but I don't have access to those
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