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London England Deaths and Burials 1813-1980

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Ozqld

Ozqld Report 28 Jun 2010 15:01

Does anyone have access to the London England Deaths and Burials 1813-1980, if so could you do a look up for the death of Eleanor Sophia Duncan and see if she is on there. She was born in 1864 and believed to have died between 1901 and 1911.
My subscription to Ancestry does not allow me access as I am only a basic member, I have tried all other avenues to find a death for her, this is my last hope, unless someone can add an extra pair of eyes to the England & Wales Death Index.. Her maiden name was Peart and she was born in West Hartlepool, Durham.
Thanks Chris

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:32

Not finding any entry in that name

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:34

Where was she in 1901?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:36

1901 is this her?

Name: Eleanor Duncan
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alexander J
Gender: Female
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: West Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Stranton All Saints
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander J Duncan 38
Eleanor Duncan 38
Mark A Duncan 13
Esther Duncan 12
Robert W Duncan 11
Eleanor M Duncan 9
William H Duncan 7
Norman G Duncan 5
Elizabeth J Duncan 4
Edna Duncan 2
Albert E Duncan 2 months



Have you found the husband and children in 1911



1911??
DUNCAN, Alexander John Head Married M 48 1863 Stockrtaker Steel Trade Middlesborough Yorks VIEW
DUNCAN, Eleanor Wife Married
25 years F 49 1862 Hartlepool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Mark A Son Single M 23 1888 Engineer Nautical W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Robert Watson Son Single M 21 1890 Ships Plumber W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Eleanor Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, William Henry Son Single M 17 1894 Labourer Steel Trade W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Norman Goodhall Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Elizabeth J Daughter Single F 14 1897 W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Edna Daughter Single F 12 1899 W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Albert Edward Son M 10 1901 W Hpool Durham VIEW
DUNCAN, Edith Daughter F 6 1905 W Hpool Durham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29639 Reference:
RG14PN29639 RG78PN1718B RD545 SD1 ED39 SN28

Registration District:
Hartlepool Sub District:
Hartlepool Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
West Hartlepool

Address:
147 Burbank St West Hartlepool

Astra

Astra Report 28 Jun 2010 15:38

The family in 1891

Henry Duncan
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellanor S
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Duncan 29
Ellanor S Duncan 27
Isabella B Duncan 8
George W Duncan 6
Robert Hy Duncan 3
Amy N Peart 14
Albert Victor Duncan 6/12




The two youngest children are with an aunt in 1901


Albert V Duncan
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: N Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Duncan 68
John Barker 48
Isabella Barker 40
Robert H Duncan 14
Albert V Duncan 10


Henry her husband (shipwright) is with the elder son George.

Henry Duncan
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: West Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hartlepool Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members:
Name Age
W J Lawrence 40
J E Lawrence 33
W J Lawrence 13
A J Lawrence 9
B M Lawrence 8
J Lawrence 2
Henry Duncan 39
George Duncan 16

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:41

Okay so I am barking up the wrong tree with the family I am looking at

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:42

Oops should have looked for the marriage first

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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DUNCAN Henry Hartlepool 10a 165
PEART Eleanor Sophia Hartlepool 10a 165
Proctor Thomas Hartlepool 10a 165
ROBINSON Hannah Jane Hartlepool 10a 165

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 15:43

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)


DUNCAN Henry Hartlepool 10a 165
PEART Eleanor Sophia Hartlepool 10a 165
Proctor Thomas Hartlepool 10a 165
ROBINSON Hannah Jane Hartlepool 10a 165

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 15:44

1891 England Census
about Ellanor S Duncan
Name: Ellanor S Duncan
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: West Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Duncan 29
Ellanor S Duncan 27
Isabella B Duncan 8
George W Duncan 6
Robert Hy Duncan 3
Amy N Peart 14
Albert Victor Duncan 6/12




Ozqld

Ozqld Report 28 Jun 2010 15:47

Thanks Astra & Glitter Baby

This is the 1891 Census for the family I am tracing:

Name: Ellanor S Duncan
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Duncan 29
Ellanor S Duncan 27
Isabella F Duncan 8
George W Duncan 6
Robert Henry Duncan 3
Amy V Peart 14
Albert Victor Duncan 6/12

The family seems split up on the 1901 Census, the husband and son are in a boarding house together although he is still listed as married and not a widower. The other children are with relatives either aunts or uncles. I cannot find Eleanor anywhere on the 1901 and can't find a death for her either. Is it possible she was sickly in hospital maybe even terminally ill or dying. I would still think that people in institutions or hospitals would have to be on Census somewhere?

Hope this extra info helps you to help me, I'm at my wits end.
Thanks Chris

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 15:48

edited incorrect

Astra

Astra Report 28 Jun 2010 15:50

Thanks Chris. Think we have found all of that but it's her death that is the missing link. Unless of course she just left home.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2010 15:52

Struggling with this one as not found a possible in 1901 or 1911 nor a death

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 28 Jun 2010 15:53

I'm afraid Rambling Rose I'm not sure of anything but her husband Henry is showing up on the 1901 in some sort of boarding house with the eldest son George W. and Henry her husband is listed as married not a widower so I have assumed that she was alive in 1901. Perhaps I should see if someone can find her on the 1911.

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 15:57

This is just a thought as i had come across something similar, there is no way of confirming...but if nothing else is found might be worth thinking about. The asylums tend to just use initials...and it does say 'single' so hopefully it isn't her

1901 England Census
about E D
Name: E D
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Sedgefield
Ecclesiastical parish: Sedgefield St Edmund
Town: Sedgefield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sedgefield
Sub-registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: Durham County Lunatic Asylum

Astra

Astra Report 28 Jun 2010 16:01

Can't trace either of them in 1911 but i think Henry died in 1909.

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 28 Jun 2010 16:05

Now that is something to think about Rambling Rose.

The only other thing I can think of is, the family seem to be in employment as Shipwrights, would it be possible she booked a passage and fled the country, possibly to America. Do they have records of passengers for that time period between 1891 & 1911?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 16:09

There is a Henry Duncan on Photos on Ancestry, private tree do you know about that Chris?

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 28 Jun 2010 16:11

No I didn't know about the Ancestry photo's, I will go on later and see if I can find the tree.

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jun 2010 16:11

there are some Eleanor Duncans in US passenger lists but I don't have access to those