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Hi all, I was wondering if any kind and clued up souls out there would be able to give me (still somewhat of an amateur at this geneology stuff!) a hand with information on a certain ancestor of mine: I'm looking for any information (or how to get hold of it myself) on a William Walls from Scotland (Dumfermlineshire we believe) born in the early 1800s (sorry I know date is very very important but dont have it!). He married a local woman called Catherine Bell, was a draper, and had one son (that we know of) called John Walls, born c.1853 in Dumfermline. More specifically I'm hoping to find any information people may be able to shed on his parents and ancestors. I'm using scottishpeople.gov.uk at present. Many thanks to all who take the time to help and reply really appreciate it!
Nathan

This one???

1861 Scotland Census
Name: John Walls
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 424/1
Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh
Civil parish: Dunfermline Burgh
County: Fife
Address: Baldridge Burn
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 124
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_55
Household Members:
Name Age
William Walls 40
Catherine Walls 45
William Walls 12
Robert Walls 10
John Walls 8
Catherine Fyfe 9



1851 Scotland Census
Name: William Walls
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Catharine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fife
Parish Number: 424
Civil parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Baldridge Burn
Occupation: Damask Weaver
ED: 25
Page: 19 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_87
Household Members:
Name Age
William Walls 30
Catharine Walls 33
William Walls 2
Robert Walls 4 Mo

Pity, he's not living at home in 1841.

1841 Scotland Census
Name: William Walls
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Fife, Scotland
Civil parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Pittencrieff Street North Side
Occupation: L Weaver J
Parish Number: 424
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Hellen Roy 60
John Roy 25
Marion Roy 20
Ebenezer Roy 20
David Roy 15
Marion Hempsead 7
William Walls

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1841 Scotland Census
Name: Robert Bell
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Rumbling Well
Occupation: Labourer
Parish Number: 424
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Bell 50
Cathaine Bell 20
Helen Bell 15
May Hephbum 50
James Donaldson 1

Looks like William dies between 1861 and 1871.

1871 Scotland Census
Name: Catherine Walls
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dunfermline, Fife
Registration Number: 424/1
Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh
Civil parish: Dunfermline Burgh
County: Fife
Address: Baldridgeburn
Occupation: Woollen & Linen Draper
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 149
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1871_72
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Walls 55
Robert Walls 20
John Walls 18

Brilliant, thanks Ozi, that's already a lot to go on!

Sorry for yet another call to help but have already come up with a mystery after that recent burst of information. From what Ozi gave me I was able to find out that William Walls as born in Fife in 1821, and died aged 46 in Dunfermline in 1869. I was able to find his death certificate on scottishpeople but the field marked "father/mother" was left completely blank! How would you go about trying to find out who they may have been? Typical that you solve one problem only to come across another!

Not sure how one might confirm this but ran that information through the parish birth records for scotland and came up with the following information:
The only William Walls born in 1821 was born in Muckhart, Perth (very close to Dunfermline) to an Alexander Walls and a Margart Mieklejohn. Interestingly William's son John named his first son Alexander although this may be coincidence. Any way that information can be confirmed?

Actually, am not sure if the information in the previous post is 100% correct but dont want to delete it. To add to the mystery I just checked the parish entry for the marriage of william walls and catherine bell in dunfermline in 1848. The entry has been written in in full but then, inexplicably, has been severely crossed out. There are no other entries relating to them that I could see.

No christing found for a William Walls in Dunfermline.I'd try Poor relief records

CATHARINE BELL Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 AUG 1815 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBERT BELL Family
Mother: MAY HEPBURN


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C119501 1807 - 1819 1040104 Film 6900808 Film

Is there any way of finding Poor Relief records online for the period before 1845? Guess may have to roll with the concept that William was an orphan

The Local History Department, Dunfermline Carnegie Library, Abbot Street, Dunfermline.
Tel. 01383 602365
Fax 01383 602307
email: [email protected]

Opening hours:
Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri : 9.30 am - 7 pm
Wed, Sat : 9.30 am - 5 pm

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/FIF/libraries/Dunfermline_lib.htm

There's plenty of female Wall's being bapts.

1. MARGARET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 DEC 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

2. MARY WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 APR 1810 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

3. MARY WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JUL 1807 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

4. CHRISTIAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 16 NOV 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

5. CATHARINE WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 JUN 1813 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

6. MARGARET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 SEP 1809 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

7. JEAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1812 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

8. JEAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUN 1817 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

9. JEAN WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 SEP 1808 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

10. MARGARET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JUL 1812 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

11. LILLIE WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 SEP 1810 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

12. MARY ANN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 JUN 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

13. HELEN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 JUN 1816 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

14. HELEN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 MAR 1816 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland


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1. JAMES WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JAN 1824 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

2. JANET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 APR 1820 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

3. JANET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 MAY 1821 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

4. CHRISTIAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 19 JUL 1823 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

5. CATHERINE WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 NOV 1822 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

6. ELISABETH WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 AUG 1823 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland


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Thanks Ellen, theres some good stuff to go on, this is just all a little tricky - annoying when its not clear cut!

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ROBERT WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 10 DEC 1850 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

PETER WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 22 NOV 1854 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:

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WILLIAM WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 01 DEC 1848 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: