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William Walls - mystery please help!!!

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Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 20 Jul 2010 17:10

William Walls seems to be a bit of a dud, was wondering if anyone might be able to help me with information on the children of John Walls and Agnes Hynd. The pair are found on the 1901 and 1911 northern ireland censuses, although John Walls died before the 1911 one (although we know not when or how). They had children Alexander (1883), John (1885), Frederick (1887), William (1891), twins James and Catherine (1894) and Robert Ronald (1897). I was wondering if anyone might suggest a good website to find out details on marriages/emmigration/generally any info relating to them. I have tried emeraldancestry but found that the information there is not particularly helpful in developing an understanding. For instance I know Alexander married Annie Mckervill in Ballymena 1916, John a Lucy Margaret Robinson in 1909, Frederick a Martha Jeffrey Ledlie in 1911 but could find none of the other info usually recorded on marriage certificates. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated please! Thank you!

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 19 Jul 2010 22:28

How would one go about doing that?

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 19 Jul 2010 20:38

Is there any way of finding out anything about this couple/children they had? I know it's possible to do so through the IGI but not specifically how?

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 19 Jul 2010 17:00

Wondering if anyone might be able to help me out with this train of thought. At the moment am rather stumped by the mystery of the parents of William Walls (1821-1869), info on him can be found at the beginning of this post. Family 'legend' has it that our Walls family came from Beath/Cowdenbeath in Fife. I've been doing some research on the principle that William Walls was orphaned young, and didnt know much about his family hence why his son failed to fill in the parent section of William's death certificate in 1869. I've found that within days of each other in 1830 husband and wife John Walls and Margaret Walls (nee Spears) died in Beath. I was wondering if anyone knew a way of finding out if the couple had children or if there was any way I may be able to verify if this theory is correct? Does it even sound plausible!? Have really appreciated the help so far, if anyone enjoys a good mystery then please feel free to help!

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 23:16

It's from OPR


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyFife.htm#D

Title Old parochial registers for Dunfermline, 1561-1854
Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Dunfermline (Fifeshire) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilm of original records in the New Register House, Edinburgh.
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Dunfermline is parish 424.


Subjects Scotland, Fife, Dunfermline - Church records


Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language English
Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1951-1979
Physical on 16 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

It's the source number that tells you where the records are from.
See what you mean,it's all women,thats funny.

mgnv

mgnv Report 18 Jul 2010 19:39

Ellen - I looked at batch # c119501 and it looks like a quirky IGI extraction of females only.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:40

1841 Census with William Wall at Helen Roy


John Roy Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 04 SEP 1811 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening: 22 SEP 1811

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: James Roy Family
Mother: Helen Gilmour


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C190651 1797 - 1823 0889489 CH3 568 18 Film NONE

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 18 Jul 2010 17:23

Thanks again Ellen that's really helpful can safely say it would have taken me ages if at all to find those things out, really appreciate it!

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:18


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JOHN WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 11 OCT 1852 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C119506 1820 - 1854 1040106 Film 6900808 Film


Sheet: 00

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:17


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WILLIAM WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 01 DEC 1848 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:16

PETER WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 22 NOV 1854 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:16


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ROBERT WALLS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 10 DEC 1850 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALLS Family
Mother: CATHERINE BELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 18 Jul 2010 17:13

Thanks Ellen, theres some good stuff to go on, this is just all a little tricky - annoying when its not clear cut!

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:12

1. JAMES WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JAN 1824 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

2. JANET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 APR 1820 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

3. JANET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 MAY 1821 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

4. CHRISTIAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 19 JUL 1823 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

5. CATHERINE WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 NOV 1822 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

6. ELISABETH WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 AUG 1823 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland


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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:11

1. MARGARET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 DEC 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

2. MARY WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 APR 1810 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

3. MARY WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JUL 1807 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

4. CHRISTIAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 16 NOV 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

5. CATHARINE WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 JUN 1813 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

6. MARGARET WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 SEP 1809 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

7. JEAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1812 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

8. JEAN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUN 1817 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

9. JEAN WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 SEP 1808 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

10. MARGARET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JUL 1812 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

11. LILLIE WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 SEP 1810 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

12. MARY ANN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 JUN 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

13. HELEN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 JUN 1816 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

14. HELEN WALLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 MAR 1816 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland


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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:09

There's plenty of female Wall's being bapts.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 17:06

The Local History Department, Dunfermline Carnegie Library, Abbot Street, Dunfermline.
Tel. 01383 602365
Fax 01383 602307
email: [email protected]

Opening hours:
Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri : 9.30 am - 7 pm
Wed, Sat : 9.30 am - 5 pm

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/FIF/libraries/Dunfermline_lib.htm

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 18 Jul 2010 17:03

Is there any way of finding Poor Relief records online for the period before 1845? Guess may have to roll with the concept that William was an orphan

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 16:57

CATHARINE BELL Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 AUG 1815 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBERT BELL Family
Mother: MAY HEPBURN


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C119501 1807 - 1819 1040104 Film 6900808 Film

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Jul 2010 16:51

No christing found for a William Walls in Dunfermline.I'd try Poor relief records