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I am looking for Alfred Dean born 1846 Brentford Middlesex married to Sarah born 1854 Middlesex. I can find Sarah in 1911 living in Brentford Middlesex but can't find any family.
Any help would be appreciated
Julia

Have you checked the death records pre 1911 for him .What is Sarah's marital status on the actual census page.

here's Sarah in 1911 -


FRANCIS, William C Head Married
18 years M 38 1873 Lighterman On Barge Middlesex Brentford VIEW
FRANCIS, Sarah Wife Married F 36 1875 Middlesex Brentford VIEW
DEAN, Sarah Mother Married F 57 1854 Garden Labourer Middlesex Isleworth VIEW
NORTH, Mary Niece F 4 1907 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6914 Reference:
RG14PN6914 RG78PN343B RD128 SD4 ED47 SN99

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Brentford Enumeration District:
47 Parish:
Brentford

Address:
41 Kenley Road Brentford County:
Middlesex

Hi Julia
I had a look on FreeBMD as I could only find Alfred up to 1881 census - there are two deaths one in March quarter 1926 and the other June quarter 1892 (both at Brentwood). Hope this info may help. Kind regards

Thank you Choccy, much appreciated. I notice it doesn't look like she is a widow so I don't know where Alfred might be.
Do you think you could please look up the 1901 Census for William Francis & Sarah Dean please. They were married in 1892 Brentford and I would be interested to know what children they had.
Thank you
Julia

Alfred is there on the 1901 census
Name: Alfred Dean
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hounslow, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Old Brentford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Brentford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:65 Albany Road

Occupation:bricklayers labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dean 56
Sarah Dean 46 occ Market Garden Hand (note ties with her occ on the 1911 census)
Mary Dean 19
Alice Dean 13

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1194; Folio: 144; Page: 30.

on the 1911 census the Sarah and William Francis say 1 child born none living

Thanks for the information, it really helps but could you possibly tell me the child's name and hit on the 1901 census of them together.
Julia

looks like Alfred was still around in 1911

Deaths Mar 1926

Dean Alfred 82 Brentford 3a 109

they dont have any children listed BUT there are several child deaths listed for brentford pre 1901 that may be one of theirs
Name: William C Francis
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Brentford, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:14 Ormiston Road

Occupation:Lighterman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Household Members: Name Age
William C Francis 28
Sarah Francis 26 b Brentford




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 541; Folio: 182; Page: 18.

sorry it double posted!!

OOH lucky cos this looks very likely

Name: William Francis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 25 Dec 1892
Father's Name: William Charles Francis
Mother's Name: Sarah Francis
Parish: St Paul, Brentford
Borough: Hounslow
County: Middlesex
father occ Bargeman
address 6 Isleworth Road

Births Dec 1892

Francis William Francis Brentford 3a 83

Deaths Jun 1893

Francis William 0 Brentford 3a 60


the original GRO birth record has the second name as Francis but think this may be an error

Name: Mary Dean
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 140
spouse Robert North

Name: Mary North
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 125

NORTH, Robert Head Married M 30 1881 Carman Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, Mary Son Married
10 years F 29 1882 Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, Sarah Daughter F 10 1901 School Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, Robert Son M 9 1902 Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, Thomas Son M 7 1904 Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, Marie Lucy Daughter F 3 1908 Brentford Middx VIEW
NORTH, John Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Brentford Middx VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6939 Reference:
RG14PN6939 RG78PN344 RD128 SD5 ED12 SN124

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Chiswick Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Chiswick

Address:
14 Waldeck Road Chiswick County:
Middlesex

7 children born 6 still living
note 5 listed here and Mary is with Gran Sarah and the William and Sarah Francis

Well done Shirley, I am glad there is somebody out there like you willing to have a go, I couldn't do it myself. I think this would definitely have to be the one. I found a marriage for William Henry Francis to Sarah Dean Sep 1892 Brentford. Son William born Dec 1892 sounds correct to me.
Now I am thinking something else, when I was looking for Alfred Dean born 1846 what I did come across was one that had the age down as born 1843 but he was in an institution in Greenwich London. It seems possible this is the one as on the 1901 census for the Francis family the parish was Greenwich. What do you think?
Julia

oh no the Find my past 1911 has gone down for maintenance was going to take a look but it does seem a likely scenario for Alfred ,perhaps he and Sarah parted and he went with daughter Sarah Francis whilst Sarah senior was with the other daughter

will check when i can on the 1911

My other message did not get through.
What you have done for me is great. It tells me that Mary and Sarah Dean the two daughters of Alfred and Sarah are both married, where as before I did not have anything for them at all. The 1911 census is the best thing out with regards to finding family as they tell you how many children are born and are now living. Obviously Mary North is the niece of Sarah & William Francis. I really appreciate all you have given me and look forward to your comments on Alfred in the Institution.
Kind regards
Julia

Hi julia
Well finally got in and looked at the census I actually come from that area and indeed remember the Greenwich Workhouse entrance Doors behind which was the workhouse which was later converted into the Nurses homes as the Workhouse Infimary became the local hospital , our daughter was born there!! The Infirmary was in the same grounds as the Workhouse
Having looked at the census and going back to the start of the entries athough it starts with the Workhouse master & his wife it then lists staff and then a long list of nurses before it list inmates which makes me conclude that Alfred was in the Infirmary as an inmate rather than being in the Workhouse itself.