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I'm researching my husband's family and I'm trying to find the marriage of John Farrer b. abt 1828 to Bridget Salmon b. abt 1829. I have the birth certificate of their son, Thomas, b. 1853 in Liverpool. I looked on freebmd and could only find a marriage for John Farrer in Dec qtr 1851 in Manchester, ref 20/448 but there's no Bridget.. For Bridget Salmon the ref is given as Manchester 20/6-5. I looked on findmypast and found the ref for John but when I went to Bridget there's a big black mark over the reference. I actually spoke to the records office but they weren't very helpful and told me to just buy the marriage cert. Does anyone have any ideas?

Yvonne

Can't find anything on ancestry or Lancashire BMD's

Hi Yvonne

Im not sure that they are 'your' couple. On the page for John Farrer, there are equal numbers of brides and grooms.

On familysearch there is a marriage of Bridget Salmon to Thomas Clarke in Dec 1851! Cross checking on FREEBMD using Thomas, there is a bride missing on the page 605!

That said, I am a relative novice whereas there are some very experienced people on here who love a good puzzle!

Good Luck!

These are all Farrer births in Liverpool:

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
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Farrer William Robinson Liverpool 20 520

Births Sep 1848 (>99%)
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FARRER Elizabeth Liverpool 20 450

Births Dec 1848 (>99%)
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Farrer Jane Liverpool 20 368

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
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Farrer Elizabeth Liverpool 20 474

Births Dec 1853 (>99%)
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FARRER Thomas Liverpool 8b 102

Found this on ancestry but unable to see who the spouse is because not a complete referenc number.

I wonder if this corresponds with the record you found on findmypast

Name: Bridget Salmon
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: *5 (click to see others on page)

Hi Tooty Fruity - as my post above I think the page no for Bridget is 605.

I only have free access to FMP and have tried to search census using son Thomas but I cant find them at all!

Bridget Salmon sounds like she could be scottish or irish - maybe a search in these areas? I think from Ireland a common commute would bring you to Liverpool?

What I can tell you is that on that 1851 marriage reference for John Farrer is that he married Mary Redman
so there is little point in you ordering that one if you are looking for a Bridget Salmon.

This is confirmed by Lancs Bmd site:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FARRER John REDMAN Mary Manchester, Oldham Road, St. Barnabas Manchester 86/1/81

Dea x

I can see no marriages Farrer/Salmon - Sorry.

The ones others have mentioned above are confirmed on Lancs Bmd as:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851

SALMON * Bridget DEVITT Michael Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/40/54
* This Bridget 'started off as Bridget Toole, then became 'Salmon' - then married 'Devitt'

SALMON Bridget CLARKE Thomas Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/87/209

Dea x

So if you have Thomas's birth certificate ,does it definately say dad John and Bridget mother.
What was the address on the certificate.

Have you got them on 1861/71 census etc.

I can only find one thomas 1853/4 liverpool to dad John 1861 and then his name is thomas farrer born 1819 Padstow Yorkshire married to louisa born 1828 in Worcestershire.

John 1819 and Thomas 1819 are one in the same person.

Maryb

Mary,

That is the Thomas I was looking at too - parents John + Louisa!

I haven't yet 'proved' anything but I have found a possible death for Bridget and re-marriage for John which may fit:

Bridget died in 1855!!!!!

Deaths Mar 1855
Farrer Bridget Liverpool 8b 131
..............
Then John re-married?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FARRER John WALTON Louisa Liverpool, St. Paul Liverpool 2120LP/5/34

I am still working on it.

Perhaps you can see something more?


Dea x

Thomas Farrer 1853 married Margaret Craig in 1874 west derby.

Margaret Craig born Kingston upon Hull 1851.

Maryb

The marriage in 1858 for John Farrer is to Louisa WALTER 8b 368.
I can't find birth for Louisa Walter 1828 in Worcestershire though.There is one in 1821 and 1824.
Maybe she had been married before!!

A John farrer born 1819 died Liverpool 1881 J/F M.
So where is Louisa in 1881????

There is a Bridget Salmon married Dec 1851 in Manchester .
But not the same page number as John

Marriages Dec 1851 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Salmon Bridget Manchester 20 6_5


Marriages Dec 1851
Farrer John Manchester 20 448

Sorry - I had to go out - I did find this before I went on 1851 Mary, (before the marriage).
It would fit with Louisa's birthdate and place but I didn't have time to follow it further.


1851 England Census
about Louisa Walton
Name: Louisa Walton
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Sambourn, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Studley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Alcester
Sub-registration district: Studley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
William Walton 43 Needlemaker
Mary Walton 49
Louisa Walton 21 ...Needlemaker
William Walton 17
Henry Walton 15
Julia Walton 11

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2075; Folio: 80; Page: 26; GSU roll: 87344.

Will have another look a bit later (must put the 'shopping' away first).

Dea x

P.S. Lancs Bmd definitely giver her name as 'WALTON. !!

Dea x

Please delete your other thread before things get complicated.
Thank you

Okay, you may have noticed my new thread on this subject and my apologies to everyone.
The information I have on the birth certificate of Thomas is that he was born on 26 Nov 1853 to parents John Farrer, butcher, and Bridget Farrer, formerly Salmon. They were living at 71 Peter Street, Liverpool, at the time. I am told by a family member that Bridget did die in 1855 and John married again, they thought to someone called Alice. How accurate their information is I don't know.

Thomas (b. 1853) married Margaret Craig.

Thanks
\Yvonne

Is this John's 2nd marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1866

FARRER John B - Manchester 8d 133
FARRIER John B - Manchester 8d 133
Tattersall Alice - Manchester 8d 133

Michael
It could be the second marriage but I don't have any info about her - I don't know if there were any children. The family member who gave me the info is away at present so I'll have to check with her when she gets back. It does look a strong possibility though.

Thanks
Yvonne

Wonder what the B stands for ?

I was just about to send another thread mentioning the B, because as far as I know his name was just John.

Yvonne

There's this one but not Lancashire


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Marriages Jun 1869

**********FARRER John Bradford Yk. 9b 175
PRIESTLEY Mary Bradford Yk. 9b 175
Spencer Joseph Bradford Yk 9b 175
***********Waring Alice Ann Bradford Yorks 9b 175