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John Scott Atchison

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Brian

Brian Report 1 Aug 2010 15:52

John married Amy Susan Dunnet in 1877. They initially had Alexander Atchison followed by a William Atchison. I am trying to trace their desdendants.

Thanks

Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 15:55

In which part of the world?

And have you tried looking for any bmd records?

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2010 16:23

Where have you got to with this family?

1881 England Census
about John Atchison
Name: John Atchison
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Amy
Gender: Male
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Frederick St (North Side)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lapidary

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Atchison 25
Amy Atchison 23
Alexander Atchison 4
William Atchison 1


Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 16:29

for ref:-

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Atchison John Westminster 1a 938
Brown Robert Edward Westminster 1a 938
Dummett Amy Susan Westminster 1a 938
Shea Mary Ann Westminster 1a 938


Name: John Atkinson
Spouse Name: Ammy Hammett
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 22 Apr 1877
Parish: St James, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington

(I've checked original and name is Atchison)

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2010 16:31

1891 England Census
about John Scott Atchenson <<Oriental stone cutter
Name: John Scott Atchenson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice S
Gender: Male
Where born: Stamford, London, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Scott Atchenson 35
Alice S Atchenson 30
Ruby S Atchenson 9 <<<New York


Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 16:31

1901

Name: Amy Atchison
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Atchison 71
Amy Atchison 43
William Atchison 21
Maggie Atchison 14
Florence Atchison 12

Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 16:33

1891.........

Name: Amy Atchison
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Egham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Egham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Windsor
Sub-registration district: Egham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amy Atchison 32
Alexandra Atchison 14
William Atchison 11
Barbara Atchison 9
Maggie Atchison 4
Florance Atchison 3

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2010 16:34

1901 England Census
about John Atchinson
Name: John Atchinson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Stamford Hill, London, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Kings Square
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Household Members: Name Age
John Atchinson 45
Alice Atchinson 40
Ruby S Atchinson 14
Arthur Atchinson 1


Anyone got full access to the 1911 please

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 16:39

Here's one child to this couple:-

Name: Florence Alice Atchison
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 Jun 1888
Born: 7 Apr 1888
Father's Name: John Atchison
Occupation: (looks like) Lapidary ?
Mother's Name: Amy Atchison
Parish: St John the Divine, Stamford Hill
Borough: Haringey
County: Middlesex
Address: 3 Netherton Road

A lapidary (the word means "concerned with stones") is an artist or artisan who forms stone, mineral, gemstones, and other suitably durable materials

EDIT:
another one:-
Name: Barbara Atchison
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Feb 1882
Born: 29 Jan 1882
Father's Name: John Atchison
Occupation: Lapidary
Mother's Name: Amy Susan Atchison
Parish: St George, Bloomsbury
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Address: 14 Bury Street

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 16:50

Relevant ?
Name: Ruby Scott Atchison
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Spouse Name: David Firth Clark
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Jan 1910
Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Atchison
Spouse Father Name: James Clark


Name: Alexander Atchison
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Address: 40 Wharton Street
Spouse Name: Frances Laura Smith
Spouse Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Apr 1901
Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Scott Atchison
Occupation: Lapidary
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Smith

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 17:05

So which is the correct family, John and Amy Susan or John Scott and Alice?
Or
Are they the same John?

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2010 17:16

Looks like they the same John and he has taken up with Alice!

Lapidary....fine stone worker as in Jewells

1911 anyone?

Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 17:16

I would suggest that John abandoned Amy and her children....leaving them with his father......and took up with Alice

The occupation is too specialised to be a coincidence...........

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 17:21

1911
ATCHINSON, John Head Married 28 years M 55 1856 Lapidary London Stamford Hill VIEW
ATCHINSON, Alice Wife Married F 50 1861 Ladies Belt Maker London St Pancras VIEW
ATCHINSON, Arthur Scott Son M 11 1900 School London Clerkenwell VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
952 Reference:
RG14PN952 RG78PN32 RD10 SD6 ED50 SN124

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Islington South East Enumeration District:
50 Parish:
Islington

Address:
5 Hale St Islington County:
London

.....still with Alice!

noted as having 2 children both living!
Married for 28years.
Wonder if he married Alice in America so was a bigamist?

Makes me think of the episode of 'Who do you think you are' a couple of weeks ago.

Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 17:24

Says on 1911 image that they have been married for 28 years!!

Flick

Flick Report 1 Aug 2010 17:29

Who, I wonder, was the father of the children born to Amy after 1881?
Or did John have a bike?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 17:34

So he married Amy in 1877.
Alexander was born in 1877 followed by William in 1880.
Then we have Barbara who was born in 1882 to Amy, and Ruby who was also born in 1882 to Alice.
Then follows Maggie in 1887 and Florance in 1888.
Finally there's Arthur in 1900 to Alice.

Looks like he had a double life to me, especially as the baptism records for Barbara and Florence give John as father.

I don't have anything as exciting as this in my tree!

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 17:39

Interesting:-

WAND, James Head Married M 54 1857 Boot Maker Bloomsbury VIEW
WAND, Amy Wife Married 9 years F 53 1858 Machinist London VIEW
ATCHINSON, Florence Stepdaughter Widow F 22 1889 Machinist Islington London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
883 Reference:
RG14PN883 RG78PN31 RD10 SD5 ED12 SN331

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Barnsbury Enumeration District:

12 Parish:
Islington

Address:
32 Charlotte St Islington N County:
London

Florence is not noted as Widow but Single!

BUT can't find a marriage?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Aug 2010 17:48

Anyone have access to US bmd to have a look for a birth for Ruby?

AND

Can anyone find him going to US and coming back to England?

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2010 17:54

With mother Alice

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Miss R S Atchison
Name: Miss R S Atchison
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 9
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: Aug 1896
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Campania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Campania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database