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Now then Michael, - I will forgive your facetiousness as you are 'poorly' !!
You may well have reams of info on the Lamb family but I fear that some of it does not 'quite fit' (tee hee !!)
Go find your numerous bits of paper and come back to us!
Dea x
P.S. - I hope you are feeling a little better now you are home !!
Dea x
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Right, OK.
Someone gave me details of Ernest’s family on the 1911 Census, from there I tracked back to 1901.
11 Meadow Banks Castle Terrace (Now Meadow Bank, Winsford)
Head: John Thomas Lamb Age 28 Salt Maker
Wife: Annie ? Age 30 No Occupation
Dgtr: Ethel Lamb Age 8
Son: Guy Lamb Age 4
Son: John William Lamb Age 2
Son: Wilfred Lamb Age 0
PRO Ref: RG 13/3343
1891 Census:
44 Well Street, Over, Winsford
Head: John Lamb Age 44 Salt Boiler – B.Hale, Lancashire
Wife: Sarah J. ? Age 45
Son: John Thomas Lamb Age 19 General Labourer
Son: William Lamb Age 17 Bricklayers Labourer
Son: Josiah Lamb Age 13 As Above
Dgtr: Elizabeth Age 8
Dgtr: Ethel Age 4
PRO Ref: RG12/2840
1881 Census:
256 Station Road, Winsford (Grocers Shop)
Head: John Lamb 34 Salt Maker – B.Hale, Cheshire
Wife: Sarah Jane ? 35
Dgtr: Sarah Ann Lamb 13
Son: John Thomas Lamb 9 Scholar
PRO Ref: RG 11/3529
1871 Census:
76 Gravel Lane (Later Station Road) Winsford
Head: John Lamb 24 Salt Boiler – B.Hale, Lancashire
Wife: Sarah Jane ? 25
Dgtr: Sarah Ann Lamb 3
PRO Ref: RG 10/ 3699
1861 Census:
Address: Over, Winsford (could be anywhere in a 3 mile radius)
Head: John Lamb 39 Labourer – B.Middlewich, Cheshire – Wrong I feel
Wife: Jane ? 39 B. Hale Banks, Lancashire
Son: John Lamb 15 B. Hale, Lancashire
Son: Illegible name 11 B. Halton, Lancashire
Son: William 9 B. Cheshire, Over (Winsford)
PRO Ref: RG 9/2605
That’s as far as I’m willing to go now, as if my inkling over the Middlewich birth place is wrong, I need to look deeply into the 1851 Census to find him.
The logical step I took was to look Lancashire way, and put John (39) as being born in Thurnham, whether my 2+2 = 8 I don’t know.
Hope this is food for thought for now though.
Mike
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<<<Now has a headache.
Dea, it would appear that your delve into the Runcorn area would be correct.
After many hours this afternoon, it would *appear* that "our" John c.1823 didn't live with his family in the 1841 census.
There are 3 John Lamb's born in Lancashire, c.1822
One takes us back to Glasson Dock, which we've established, is a dead end.
One takes us to John Dugdale's farm in Tock How, Ulverston.
The third and final one takes us to a John ?'s Blacksmiths, on Brock Street in Lancaster, Aged 19 he is working as a Blacksmith. But looks like this could lead us to a dead end. Because this is as far back as I personally can get
Gutted.
Mike
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Don't be 'gutted' Michael.
This 'hobby' is very addictive but if you just 'go with the flow' you can get back to 'Adam and Eve' in 20 minutes.! but it won't be right !!
There are many people on these sites who just link up names - we ALL connect somewhere!!
The 'trick is that every one you find must be 'proved' before you accept them on your tree!!
That is the 'satisfying 'way - to know that what you are adding is correct.!!!
You are doing well but the last link does not connect.
You cannot go back with certainty over 120 years in 24 hours. - Have a little patience !!
Take a little break and I (and Janey-the genius) will be back tomorrow.
We will help you then.
Dea Xxx
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I know, I know, I just thought I'd hit the shortcut jackpot, but hey ho.
Time to do things the proper way. I guess
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has anybody had any luck at all?
Edit: I'll take it we've hit a brick wall for the time being then.
I'm talking to my Dad's great uncle's who would be descended from Herbert at some point this weekend to see if they recall anything.
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Right, on the basis of a gut feeling, I looked into geography not geneology.
The Hale I was thinking of is not the Hale that used to be part of Lancashire, in 1822, the Hale near Altrincham was part of Cheshire and had been for at least 14 years.
The Hale in Lancashire, would now be classed as the Wirral and is a village near the Mersey.
Using familysearch.org there is a baptism for John Lamb on the 31st March 1822 in St. Peter's Church, Liverpool.
Interestingly enough, St. Peter's is not technically in Liverpool, it's in Woolton Village,(Much Woolton ring any bells with anyone?? – 1851 census hit)
There are 2 other baptisms from the same parents:
Thomas Lamb 10th December 1820 – St. Peter’s
Elisabeth Lamb 17th March 1824 – St. Peter’s
The parents were Thomas and Bridget Lamb, so they will have married before the earliest christening (1820) but I can’t find anything.
Could this be a new line of enquiry?? Me thinks so
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I came across this thread whilst searching for something else and I am afraid I may have to throw the proverbial spanner in the works with regards to Michael's reasoning on St. Peter's church.
The St. Peter's church you found is not, in fact, the one in Woolton as that church was not built till around c1826. The one in question I think you will find, is this one...and was extrememly well used for bmds!!
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Liverpool/StPeter.shtml
ps I used to live not far away from Woolton!.
Here is a link to Hale Village which is near Widnes and part of the Diocese of Liverpool.
http://www.halevillageonline.co.uk/
Sorry to cause even more confusion for you Michael.....but.......:)))
Cx.
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OK, not posted on here for a while (ooops)
Work's been manic, but it would appear that we are now looking for a Thomas and Bridget Lamb born c1800 and married c1820-ish
can't find any BMD records relating to them, anyone got any good sources for BMD's around the wirral and Liverpool at that time?
Cheers,
Mike
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