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ivy

ivy Report 5 Sep 2010 22:52

hannah pickering married william byron hannah gave birth to elsie in1900 elsie is my grandmother. in the 1901 census hannah elsie and hannah s sister martha were living together. .in 1902 hannah died, in the 1911 census elsie was living with william and his new wife caroline. ,now the problem is that the marrage certificate i have for william and hannah says williams father was called daniel .on the certificate that jeff has for william and caroline it says william father was called john .on mine hannahs father is called .james ellis pickering and on doing a search for him i found out that he had a few children. and 2 of his daughters were called hannah and martha so that fits in with the 1901 census for hannah .1n the 1911 census ellsie shows up living with her father .and as willim did not remarry till 1903 elsie was born before they married .i am so confused

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Sep 2010 23:07

We are assuming here that the 1911 entry I found is correct and it might not be. All hinges on that occupation I suspect. Can you ask Geoff what this on the marriage cert for William and Caroline? In fact let's go one step further and find out their fathers' occupations too. It sounds obscure but believe me this can make or break a finding.

Have sent you a PM by the way.

Jan

ivy

ivy Report 5 Sep 2010 23:18

on mine it says william s father was a cotton spinner and his name was daniel byron sorry but i dont know his date of birth i am having a problem finding him.

ivy

ivy Report 5 Sep 2010 23:23

hannah father was james ellis pickering he was a manager thats all it say so i dont know what he was a manager of also he was born in heywood the same as hannah on the 1901

ivy

ivy Report 6 Sep 2010 22:54

hi jan
i got elsies birth certificate to day and you were right william and hanna were living at 120 pearson st .thats the same address .as hanna elsise and martha were living at in the 1901 census william was a painter of some sort as underneath the word painter it says something else but i cant make the word out so now im stuck ,i cant find any trace of williams father daniel .so i seem yo have come to the end of my search .i just want to thank you for all the help you and the others have given me you have been so kind

gorgeoustriplets

gorgeoustriplets Report 16 Sep 2010 22:04

Hi Brummejan, just so you know, Ivy and I are trading info and gradually finding the answers. Incidentally the "gorgeous" does not refer to me (at 60+ I do not qualify) but to the gorgeous triplet girls presented to my son and him wife 3 years ago!!
I have only just seen your question to Ivy of 5th Sept. On my certificate William's father was shown as deceased and he was a Spinner and Caroline's father was a Labourer
Regards,
Geoff

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2010 08:50

Nice to see the update Geoff, thanks. What a great thing it is when you find living relatives, makes such a difference, as everyone knows something however small and it puts it all together. I am sure you are gorgeous in your own way (as am I at 55!).
Jan