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John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 16:23

john evan gill or evan john gill. father robert, mother hannah (MAYERS?)I cant find record of my father in laws birth... 13th or 15th february 1918. died 21.4.1990) his father Robert,( b.23.8.1898..died 1975) mother hannah . birkenhead. can anyone help please? from doreen gill on grandsons genes R)

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 16:29

Gill Evan G Phillips Lampeter 11b 44

Births Dec 1918

or this one, same qtr

Gill John E Ferguson Richmond Y. 9d 1074


Mother = Anna who?

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 16:34

Sorry, we found no matches.
Search for Type: Marriages Surname: gill First name(s): robert
Start date: Mar 1913 Spouse's first name(s): anna / anne

ann= lots of possibles



John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 16:41

no. my father in laws marriage cert just says evan john gill. born birkenhead. father robert. but other records show him as john evan, which we all knew him as, not as evan john. no body is alive now, who remembers what annas maiden name was! thanks for your help! doreen

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 16:42

please clarify exactly what name we are looking at here -
a) John Evan
b) John Evan Gill
c) Evan John Gill
d) John Gill


Never seen a marriage cert with a birthplace on myself

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 16:48

another bit of info that i havent been able to trace more of..my father in law had a brother george quoyle or quayle gill. who died in WW11. service no.4127275, cheshire regiment. also born birkenhead. in north africa on 6.4.1943. my father in laws army number was 4127012. but I dont know if I can get any more details from army records either. am stuck, and have spent more than I should this month!..many thanks for your interest!..doreen

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 16:52

sorry, no, not on birth cert. only address at that time. I was confused again. I know he was born birkenhead. sorry. as for the name.. On marriage certificate he was evan john, as I said, but I cant find John.. John Evan, or evan john. he didnt have other names. thanks

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 16:58

so his surname isn't Gill?

His surname is Evan, his first name, John?

Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Sep 2010 17:00


The 'Quoyle' connection - ?


1911

GILL, John T Head Married M 49 1862 Dock Labourer Peel Isle Off Man VIEW
*****GILL, Sophia Quoyle Wife Married
28 years F 49 1862 Peel Isle Off Man VIEW
GILL, Elizabeth M Daughter Single F 24 1887 Dressmaker Peel Isle Off Man VIEW
GILL, George Kier Son Single M 21 1890 Railway Porter Birkenhead VIEW
*******GILL, Robert Son M 13 1898 School B Head VIEW
GILL, Thomas E Son M 9 1902 School B Head VIEW
*******KEEN, George Quoyle Nephew M 9 1902 School B Head VIEW
GILL, Moujor Son M 6 1905 School B Head VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21973 Reference:
RG14PN21973 RG78PN1308 RD452 SD1 ED16 SN150

Registration District:
Birkenhead Sub District:
Birkenhead Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Birkenhead

Address:
63 Bentinck St Birkenhead County:
Cheshire



Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Sep 2010 17:05




Name: GILL, GEORGE QUAYLE
Initials: G Q
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cheshire Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 06/04/1943
Service No: 4127275
Additional information: Son of Robert and Hannah Mayers Gill, of Birkenhead.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. E. 5.
Cemetery: SFAX WAR CEMETERY


Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 17:09

Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
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Gill George Q Hunter Birkenhead 8a 784

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 17:10

Cant find a GILL/HUNTER marriage!

Births Dec 1919

Gill Robert G Hunter Birkenhead 8a 929

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Births Mar 1921

Gill Thomas Hunter Birkenhead 8a 840

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Births Jun 1922

Gill George Q Hunter Birkenhead 8a 784

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Births Jun 1925

Gill Elizabeth Hunter Birkenhead 8a 806

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Births Dec 1926

Gill Hannah Hunter Birkenhead 8a 793

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Births Sep 1929 -

Gill William Hunter Birkenhead 8a 651

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Births Sep 1930

Gill Lilian Hunter Birkenhead 8a 697

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Births Dec 1932

Gill Valentine Hunter Birkenhead 8a 677

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 17:14

his full name as far as we know is john evan gill. although on his marriage certificate it says evan john gill. That is why we are confused! we are trying combinations of..plain john, john evan and evan john. his brothers and sisters always called him " our evan".. but his wife, family and friends, knew him as john (to make it more confusing, also nicknamed Jack, as lots of johns were in the old days!) thanks for your time and trouble...doreen

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 17:16

thanks choccy. I managed to find that part from the 1911 census, but got stuck on the moujor, which others have kindly, and unbelievably quickly, for me. many thanks again..doreen

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 17:19

ah that is SO brilliant. Thank you so much! I am a learner, and all you great people are finding out the answers before I finish typing the questions! wish I knew how you did it! much regards..doreen gill x

John

John Report 23 Sep 2010 17:25

just been told that name of roberts wife was hannah mayers( gill) so maybe mayers was her surname?

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 21:35

please dont edit your first request - I look a right numpty now, you said mothers name was Anna! You have now changed it to Hannah

looks like mother was nee Hunter Judging by this birth.

Births Jun 1897

Hannah Mayers HUNTER Birkenhead 8a 576

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 21:41

Ker-ching!

Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Gell Robert Hunter Birkenhead 8a 838 <<<<<
Hodson Alfred Marl Birkenhead 8a 838
Hunter Hannah Gell Birkenhead 8a 838 <<<<,
Marl Frances M Hodson Birkenhead 8a 838


still no nearing finding a birth for John Evan/ Evan John though

Penny

Penny Report 23 Sep 2010 21:48

Found it !

Births Mar 1918

Gell John E Hunter Birkenhead 8a 663

Short pregnancy!
At last!

so he was registered as JOHN, and his parents were Hannah Mayers ( her second name) Hunter ( surname pre marriage) and Robert Gill

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Sep 2010 21:53

Doreen

you'll find that our ancestors switch their names around , or even drop or add names, on a whim


I'm convinced that they knew subconsciously that we would be looking for them a hundred years in the future, and determined to make life as difficult as possible

:)))



sylvia