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I am trying to find any relatives or details on a Thomas Angus Craig born 1904 in Glasgow - parents Alexander Craig and Alice Paterson - parents married in Belfast in 1887.

Thanks

Dennis

Are you looking for living relatives or trying to go backwards?

Both - majority of family unknown so trying to find siblings of wife's mother or living descendants of any aunts and uncles of my wife. Want to know what family circumstances were for two sisters to come to London from Glasgow and do what they did. I do know that my wife has 8 siblings/half siblings and have only managed to locate and talk with two but they know little more (or even less) than we do.

Dennis

Do you have Alexander and Alice's marriage cert? That would give their ages and fathers' names and occupations.

Have you found them on the 1901 census?

Have you searched in trees on this site to see if anyone has them in their tree?

If Alexander and Alice died in Scotland then their death registrations will give their parent's names including their mother's maiden surnames - if the informant knew the details.

Where in Ireland did they marry please? (Birth certificate of a child born in Scotland gives the date and place of the parents marriage)

EDIT

Sorry see you have said Belfast.

This looks like the marriage reg - there is an Alice Patterson with the same details:

Name: Alexander Craig
Registration District: Belfast
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1887
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101255
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 287
Digital Folder Number: 4179726
Image Number: 00340
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Looks as if Thomas Angus had a brother:

Name James Craig
Gender Male
Baptism/Christening Date
Baptism/Christening Place
Birth Date 06 Feb 1891
Birthplace Camlachie, Lanark, Scotland
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Alexander Craig
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Alice Paterson Craig
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C01956-4
System Origin Scotland-EASy
Source Film Number 255136
Reference Number v 644-2 p 120

This looks like the family in 1891:

1891 Scotland Census
about Alice Craig
Name: Alice Craig
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Alexander Craig
Gender: Female
Where born: Countydown, Ireland
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: Camlachie
Civil parish: Glasgow Camlachie
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 239 Broad St
ED: 48
Household schedule number: 73
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1891_245
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Craig 24 b Glasgow
Alice Craig 25 b Glasgow EDIT - b County Down
Alexander Craig 4 b County Down
James Craig 2 MO

Alex and Alice marriage details
Marriage:
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 02 May 1887
Groom Name alexander CRAIG
Bride Name alice PATTERSON
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

No one appears to have anything on this family on this site - have tried one branch but no response

Dennis

Thanks Pam for the possible brother will look into this. So it also looks like Alice is the Irish connection and not Alexander (unless they both were?).

Dennis

Alice Craig death
(married to Alexander Craig - Irondresser)
7 December 1907 3h 50m PM
1 Bowlinggreen Terrace, Glasgow
39 Years
Father - Thomas Paterson - Farmer (deceased)
Mother - Margaret Paterson m/s Paterson (deceased)
Cause of death - Pelvic cellulitis
Registered by A Craig - Son
BRIDGETON - GLASGOW

The 1901 confuses things a bit as it looks as if Alice has remarried (unless she and Sarah have been mistranscribed - don't have any credits on scotlandspeople to check the image):

Name: James Craig
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Alice Dougan
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: Camlachie
Civil parish: Glasgow Camlachie
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 20 Marlborough St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 109
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_267
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Dougan 40 b Ireland
Alexander Craig 14 b Ireland
James Craig 10 b Glasgow
Alice Craig 5 b Glasgow
Sarah Dougan 2 b
Rosennia Craig 16 b Glasgow, boarder

There is 1 Alice Paterson other surname Craig born 1867 +/- 2 years death on Scotlandspeople. The death waas registered in Glasgow in 1901. Have you eliminated that as a possibility for your Alice please?

EDIT

I see you have that now - looks like your Alice.

Hi Linda

Not checked that death as I had the 1907 entry which fitted the details (my entry two above here). This looks like it's going to get into a common surname and Christian name pot - already have possible Kelly's married to Kelly's.

Dennis

Possible for Alexander in 1901:

1901 Scotland Census
about Alexander Craig
Name: Alexander Craig
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/2
Registration district: Shettleston
Civil parish: Shettleston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Off Cumbernanld Road Glasgow
Occupation: General Labourer
ED: H M General Prison

Dennis, if I were you, I would buy some credits on scotlandspeople to check out the image for the 1901.

I wonder if this is the Rosina from the 1901 - POB differs but father James is an ironworker. The two youngest children b Ireland, all the rest b Glasgow:

1891 Scotland Census
about Rosina Craig
Name: Rosina Craig
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: James Craig
Mother's Name: Sarah Craig
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 8 Trafalgar St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 51
Household schedule number: 169
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1891_240
Household Members: Name Age
James Craig 45
Sarah Craig 45
Sarah Craig 14
James Craig 12
John Craig 7
Rosina Craig 5

Do you have Alexander's father's name (from the marriage cert)? because looking at this for 1871 (EDIT: 1881), I wonder if the family above is his:

1881 Scotland Census
about Alexander Craig
Name: Alexander Craig
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Craig
Mother's Name: Sarah Craig
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 17 Landressy St
Occupation: Iron Dresser (App)
ED: 76
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 20
Roll: cssct1881_225
Household Members: Name Age
James Craig 36
Sarah Craig 36
Alexander Craig 14
Sarah Craig 4
James Craig 2
Samuel C Craig 1 MO

Hi Pam

Have these which give various Alexander's

1881 - need to find actual name of father of Alexander..

Alexander Craig
Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margeret
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 92 Main St
Occupation: Iron Moulder
Household Members: Name Age
Margeret Craig 55
Alexander Craig 16
Elizabeth K Craig 14
George S Craig 12

1871
Alexander Craig
Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Margaret
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 17 Tureen Street
Occupation: Scholar
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Craig 40
Margaret Craig 43
Ann Craig 16
Janet Craig 14
Rebecka Craig 7
Alexander Craig 6
Elizabeth K Craig 4
George S Craig 1

Name: Alexander Craig
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1866
Birthplace: CALTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Craig
Mother's Name: Sarah Porter
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11921-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name: Alexander Craig
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 04 Oct 1866
Birthplace: ARBROATH,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Craig
Mother's Name: Mary Dear Buick
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11272-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name: Alexander Craig
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1865
Birthplace: HAMILTON,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Craig
Mother's Name: Janet Allan
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11647-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Irelands bmd for marriage entries in 1887 gives these references which show Alexander's father listed as James so possibly this last entry

Surname Firstname Year Fathers Firstname county
CRAIG ALEXANDER 1887 JAMES Antrim

Surname Firstname Year Fathers Firstname county
PATTERSON ALICE 1887 THOMAS Antrim


EDIT But then James's wife Janet above not Sarah as in your entry?

Dennis

May have to take a break and re-think how best to proceed to get information.

Thanks for your help.

Dennis

Hi Pam

As I mentioned it is getting confusing - everything would work with Alice remarrying and becoming Dougan by 1901 but then why would she be Alice Craig in the death entry in 1907?

Dennis