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i woundered if someone could help, i am searching for my family line, Annie stanton 1885 m abraham rosson 1891. i,m trying to research both lines b ut at the moment trying to find a connection with a family called phillips. Annie and abraham died when children evelyn and harry were young and were adopted out to family phillips, along side evelyn and harry were too older sibblings lillian francis and bertha. both these kept the name rosson, all i,m trying to do at the moment is connect the two familys, please help

Not quite sure what you mean by connecting the two families? Do you mean you are trying to find out who took these children in?

Just for info:

Marriages Jun 1912
Rosson Abraham Stanton Salford 8d 132
STANTON Annie Rosson Salford 8d 132

All the Rosson/Stanton births:

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Rosson Frances L Stanton Salford 8d 319
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Rosson Abraham Stanton Salford 8d 192
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Rosson Bertha Stanton Salford 8d 252
Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Rosson John F Stanton Salford 8d 178
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Rosson Harry Stanton Salford 8d 259
Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Rosson Evelyn Stanton Salford 8d 454

So you want to look at both families to see if they were adopted by a relative?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: ROSSON, Abraham
Address: 10 West Brunswick Street Cross Lane Salford
ROSSON, Arthur Head Married M 33 1878 Coal Carter Salford Lancs VIEW
ROSSON, Edith Wife Married
8 years F 37 1874 Salford Lancs VIEW
ROSSON, Arthur Son M 5 1906 School Salford Lancs VIEW
ROSSON, Edith Daughter F 2 1909 Salford Lancs VIEW
ROSSON, Abraham Brother Single M 19 1892 Traveller Salford Lancs

do you have the Phillips names?

There may be no connection with the family called Phillips. Prior to 1927 there was no official adoption and children were 'farmed out' to whoever would have them.

My great grandmother died when my grandfather was 3 years old. He appears to have lived with numerous families until he was old enough to work and none of these families were related to my ancestors.

The legal process of adoption didn't come into being until 1927.

My great grandfather and his sister were orphaned and then " brought up" for many years by a family who lived in the same street. This family were no relation at all to the "adopted" children.............they were simply very kind and loving.

Several possibilities for Annie

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STANTON, Annie
Address: 5 Cedar St Burnley
STANTON, Honora Head Widow F 53 1858 Preston Lancs VIEW
STANTON, Patrick Son Single M 22 1889 Warf Dyer Bunrley Lancs VIEW
STANTON, Annie Daughter Single F 26 1885 Cotton Weaver Bunrley Lancs VIEW
STANTON, Frank Son Single M 19 1892 Laberer Smithy Bunrley Lancs VIEW
STANTON, Thomas Nephew Single M 31 1880 Black Smith Westport Ireland

I think Vanessa is trying to work out the relationship of the Phillips family with Annie and Abraham ........ ie, were they actually related.


A problem made difficult by the fact that legal adoption didn't take place until mid 1927 or thereabouts.


I guess the first step might be to find out who the Phillips were ............. what was Mrs Phillips maiden name for example.


Vanessa ....... do you know the names of the Phillips family please?




sylvia

Do you have place of birth for Annie? and parents?

thanks so much everyone, yes i am trying to find out which family had adopted these children, as far as i can find out it was a stanton relative who married a phillips who adopted them,

deleted as Jan beat me to it

there's a potential Stanton/ phillips marriage in Salford, if someone could check whether Florence married Phillips?

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)

CHARLES Herbert Salford 8d 160
O'Hare Mary Salford 8d 160
PHILLIPS Edward Salford 8d 160
Stanton Florence Salford 8d 160

Abraham's death?


Deaths Sep 1936 (>99%)

Rosson Abraham 47 Salford 8d 324




sylvia

Abraham died in 1936, so that may mean that the children were formally adopted

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STANTON Florence PHILLIPS Edward Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/97/2

from lancashirebmd.org.uk

sylvia i wish i knew, unfortunatly this is something that has recently come to light and all the elders of my family have passed away.
so unfortunatley other than the adopted names of evelyn phillips nee rosson and harry phillips nee rosson, this is all the information i have to work with, i know its a long shot,
thanks vanessa

I'm afraid that my geography is rubbish but there is a Florence and Edward Phillips in West Derby in the 1911 census.
Edward born 1886, Florence born 1883
I've no idea if this is a connection

Vanessa have you got the marriage cert for Abraham and Annie for her father's name?

There is a possible Stanton Phillips marriage

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
CHARLES Herbert Salford 8d 160
O'Hare Mary Salford 8d 160
PHILLIPS Edward Salford 8d 160
Stanton Florence Salford 8d 160

But I cannot see a corresponding census in 1911