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Francesca
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12 Dec 2010 13:53 |
Looking for any info on Isaac Churchman,born in 1820s 30s?. He was from Flat Fishe, Norfolk.He must have moved to halifax yorkshire at some point as he had a son there,Alfred Churchman,born 1852.Alfred married Mary Jane Brocksop in 1885. No idea who Isaac was married to. Thanks Francesca
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2010 13:58 |
connected? 1881
Fredc. CHURCHMAN Head M Male 32 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Ag Lab Mary CHURCHMAN Wife M Female 32 Necton, Norfolk, England Alfred CHURCHMAN Son U Male 13 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Scholar Harry CHURCHMAN Son Male 7 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Scholar Isaac CHURCHMAN Son Male 6 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Scholar Marian CHURCHMAN Daur Female 4 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Eliza CHURCHMAN Daur Female 1 Holme Hale, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Common Rd Census Place Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Family History Library Film 1341485 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2009 / 54 Page Number 12
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2010 13:58 |
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Isaac CHURCHMAN Head M Male 26 Litcham, Norfolk, England (Ag) Labourer Elizabeth CHURCHMAN Wife M Female 24 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Herbert CHURCHMAN Son Male 3 Castleacre, Norfolk, England Frances CHURCHMAN Daur Female 1 Castleacre, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Lime Kiln Yard Census Place Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Family History Library Film 1341480 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1994 / 73 Page Number 11
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 13:59 |
Well there is this Alfred Churchman in 1881:
1881 England Census about Alfred Churchman Name: Alfred Churchman Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Martha Ann Churchman Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Southowram County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Elland Road Cromwell House Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Farm Servant (Ag Lab) Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Southowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Churchman 30 Martha Ann Churchman 27 Elizeabeth Ann Churchman 4 Harriet Ann Churchman 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4397; Folio: 11; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1342050.
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2010 13:59 |
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William CHURCHMAN Head W Male 77 Holme Hale Farmer Samuel CHURCHMAN Son M Male 48 Holme Hale Farmer Sarah CHURCHMAN D. In Law M Female 47 Foulsham Isaac CHURCHMAN G. Son U Male 15 Great Fransham Farmers Son Theodore CHURCHMAN G. Son Male 13 Great Fransham Scholar Adeline CHURCHMAN G. Daur Female 10 Great Fransham Scholar Agness CHURCHMAN G. Daur Female 9 Great Fransham Scholar Ernest CHURCHMAN G. Son Male 5 Great Fransham Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling By Turnpike Census Place Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Family History Library Film 1341477 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1981 / 39 Page Number 2
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 13:59 |
His death?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Alfred Churchman Name: Alfred Churchman Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 38 District: Halifax County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9a Page: 289
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2010 14:01 |
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Alfred CHURCHMAN Head M Male 30 Norfolk, England Farm Servant (Ag Lab) Martha Ann CHURCHMAN Wife M Female 27 Norfolk, England Elizeabeth Ann CHURCHMAN Dau Female 4 Rastrick, York, England Harriet Ann CHURCHMAN Dau Female 1 Southowram, York, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Elland Road Cromwell House Census Place Southowram, York, England Family History Library Film 1342050 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4397 / 11 Page Number 16
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2010 14:01 |
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Robert CHURCHMAN Head M Male 36 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Labourer (Genl) France CHURCHMAN Wife M Female 34 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Robert W. CHURCHMAN Son U Male 16 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Labourer (Genl) Alfred CHURCHMAN Son U Male 14 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Labourer (Genl) Eliza CHURCHMAN Daur U Female 11 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Scholar Eaelina CHURCHMAN Daur U Female 7 Swaffham, Norfolk, England Scholar Mary E. CHURCHMAN Daur U Female 4 Hatfield, York, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Whitfields Cottages Census Place Conisbrough, York, England Family History Library Film 1342133 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4686 / 10 Page Number 13
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:01 |
1861 England Census about Alfred Churchman Name: Alfred Churchman Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's name: Isaac Churchman Gender: Male Where born: Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Holme Hale County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Swaffham Sub-registration district: Saham Toney ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 106 Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Churchman 46 Samuel Churchman 19 Frederic Churchman 14 Alfred Churchman 12 Mary Churchman 72
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1263; Folio: 136; Page: 18; GSU roll: 542786.
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:02 |
1851 England Census about Alfred Churchman Name: Alfred Churchman Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's name: Isaac Churchman Gender: M (Male) Where born: Holme Hale, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Holme Hale County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Swaffham Sub-registration district: Swaffham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Churchman 36 Samuel Churchman 9 William Churchman 7 Frederick Churchman 4 Alfred Churchman 2 Mary Churchman 63 Robert Churchman 17
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1831; Folio: 398; Page: 3; GSU roll: 207486.
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:07 |
Marriages Jun 1840 BROOKES Mary Swaffham 13 415 CHURCHMAN Isaac Swaffham 13 415 CHURCHMAN James Swaffham 13 415 * CLEMENCE Mary Swaffham 13 415 DYE Deborah Swaffham 13 415 HEYHOE James Swaffham 13 415 HEYHOE John Swaffham 13 415 PALMER Mary Swaffham 13 415
Probably married to one of the Mary's on that page.
1841 England Census about Isaiah Churchman Name: Isaiah Churchman Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Holme Hale Hundred: South Greenhoe County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Swaffham Sub-registration district: Saham Toney Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Mary Dayer 50 Isaiah Churchman 35 Mary Churchman 20 Samuell Churchman 1 MO
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 773; Book: 12; Civil Parish: Holme Hale; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 10; Page: 15; Line: 19; GSU roll: 438860.
Image does say 'Isack'.
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Francesca
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12 Dec 2010 14:08 |
Possible connection annbut dates dont match. Pretty certain Alfred was married to mary jane brocksop,Alex. Thanks anyway.
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:09 |
Do you have him in the censuses with her?
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:11 |
As:
Marriages Mar 1872 CHURCHMAN Alfred Swaffham 4b 569 PALMER Martha Ann Swaffham 4b 569
Deaths Sep 1884 Churchman Martha Ann 28 Halifax 9a 275
Marriages Mar 1885 Brocksopp Mary Jane Halifax 9a 509 Churchman Alfred Halifax 9a 509
If you have his and Mary Jane's marriage cert - does it give him as a widower?
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:13 |
Deaths Mar 1875 Churchman Isaac 60 Swaffham 4b 315
His wife died prior to the 1851 census:
Deaths Mar 1850 CHURCHMAN Mary Swaffham 13 228
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:17 |
From FreeReg:
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 297 BurialDate 24 Feb 1850 Forename Mary Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname CHURCHMAN Age 29 Abode Holme Hale Notes FileNumber 819
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 488 BurialDate 09 Mar 1875 Forename Isaac Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname CHURCHMAN Age 60 Abode Holme Hale Notes FileNumber 819
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 23 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 07 Jan 1815 Forename Isaac Sex M FatherForename Samuel MotherForename Mary FatherSurname CHURCHMAN MotherSurname CHURCHMAN Abode Holme Hale FatherOccupation Labourer Notes FileNumber 820
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Francesca
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12 Dec 2010 14:18 |
Haven't gothis marriage cert Alex,was given info by a relative. Didnt think about him being married before but thats possible
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:19 |
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 394 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 04 May 1841 Forename Samuel Sex M FatherForename Isaac MotherForename Mary FatherSurname CHURCHMAN MotherSurname CHURCHMAN Abode Holme Hale FatherOccupation Labourer Notes FileNumber 820
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 437 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 21 Apr 1844 Forename William Sex M FatherForename Isaac MotherForename Mary FatherSurname CHURCHMAN MotherSurname CHURCHMAN Abode Holme Hale FatherOccupation Labourer Notes FileNumber 820
County Norfolk Place Holme Hale Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 461 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 05 Jul 1846 Forename Frederic Sex M FatherForename Isaac MotherForename Mary FatherSurname CHURCHMAN MotherSurname CHURCHMAN Abode Holme Hale FatherOccupation Labourer Notes FileNumber 820
No baptism found for Alfred - but I suspect his birth may have come close to his mother's death and perhaps he wasn't baptised due to this?
Or it isn't transcribed on FreeReg or is mistranscribed.
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FamilyFogey
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12 Dec 2010 14:22 |
Christenings of his children with both wives:
Name: William Henry Churchman Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 02 May 1875 Baptism/Christening Place: Hartshead, York, England Birth Date: 29 Oct 1874 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Alfred Churchman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Martha Ann Churchman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02644-9 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1542089 Reference Number: item 7 p 60
Name: Harriet Ann Churchman Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Aug 1881 Baptism/Christening Place: Southowram, York, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Alfred Churchman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Martha Ann Churchman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02054-5 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1542109 Reference Number: items 2-3 p 166
Name: Agnes Mary Churchman Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Sep 1888 Baptism/Christening Place: Southowram, York, England Birth Date: 25 Feb 1887 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Alfred Churchman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Churchman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02054-5 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1542109 Reference Number: items 2-3 p 225
Name: Gladys Churchman Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Sep 1889 Baptism/Christening Place: Southowram, York, England Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Alfred Churchman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Churchman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02054-5 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1542109 Reference Number: items 2-3 p 234
Ahh - found Alfred's christening:
Name: Alfred Churchman Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 30 Jan 1850 Baptism/Christening Place: Swaffham, Norfolk, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Isaac Churchman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Churchman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03540-7 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 2299614 Reference Number: item 4
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12 Dec 2010 14:25 |
Groom's Name: Afred Churchman Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Martha Ann Palmer Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1872 Marriage Place: Ashill, Norfolk, England Groom's Father's Name: Isaac Churchman Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Isrel Palmer Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03979-8 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1596157 Reference Number: item 13 p 83
Name: Alfred Churchman Gender: Male Burial Date: 14 May 1890 Burial Place: York Death Date: Death Place: Age: 38 Birth Date: 1852 Birthplace: Occupation: Race: Marital Status: Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03320-7 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1542109 Reference Number: p99, no789
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