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Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 09:57

Hi all
I am trying to find Mary Louisa Watkins Born in Swansea 1886, she married David George Hurford in 1906. I have found what i think is her in the 1891 Census marked as 1888 place of birth Swansea, location in 1891 llangyfelach, I am unable to read the family names on this census, can anyone help me please. Many thanks.

Lynn

patchem

patchem Report 31 Dec 2010 10:01

Births Dec 1887
Watkins Mary Louisa Swansea 11a 700

What is her Father's name from the marriage certificate (and his job)?
Thanks

Alan

Alan Report 31 Dec 2010 10:09

Is this the one ?
Name: Mary Watkins
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Watkins
Mother's name: M A Watkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Loephor, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Llangyfelach
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangyfelach
Town: Clase
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales


Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Llangyfelach
Thomas Watkins 38
M A Watkins 33
E Hannah Watkins 10
T John Watkins 8
Mary Watkins 5
Benjamin Watkins 3




Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 10:12

Hi Patchem

I am told her father was Isiah Watkins and am told (but could be missinformation) he was a miner. thank you for your reply. she supposed to have a brother called Llewellyn (his middle name) and a sister Tilly ( a pet name i think or a short version of something) Lynn

Alan

Alan Report 31 Dec 2010 10:21

I notice she dies early in life aged 55.....................do you have that information?

Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 10:21

Hi Allan,
thank you for your reply, but i dont think its them, i am awaiting the marriage certs but thought i would try to find them, Mary Louisa had a sister called Tilly who married Harry Fisher who was a Councillor for Swansea Town and a brother who was Llewellyn, i dont know if any more children exsist.
Lynn

Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 10:23

Hi Alan
I think she died in 1941 after childbirth i am told, my aunty had to go and live with her older sister at the time. I tried to read the information on the 1891 census but its transcription is difficult to read and was wondering if anyone else might be able to read it better than i. Many thanks for your reply and appreciate the help given.

Lynn

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:01

I think this is her with her husband in 1911 and both using middle names. notice 1901 he has initial D

1901 Address: 25, Earl Street, Swansea
HURFORD, Thos Head Married M 41 1860 Dock Labourer
Motten Courtney
Somersetshire
HURFORD, Mary A Wife Married F 42 1859
Dowlais
Glamorganshire
HURFORD, George D Son Single M 16 1885 Smith's Striker
U States America B Sub
HURFORD, Herbert J Son Single M 10 1891
U States America B Sub
HURFORD, Norman V Son Single M 8 1893
U States America B Sub


1911 Address: 204 Neath Road Landore Swansea
HURFORD, George Head Married
4 years M 26 1885 Blacksmiths Striker America
HURFORD, Louisa Wife Married F 23 1888 Swansea Glam
HURFORD, Florence Daughter Single F 3 1908 Swansea Glam
HURFORD, Herbert Son Single M 2 1909 Swansea Glam

Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 11:07

Hi Kira,
Yes this is her:) 1911 census and Thomas on the 1901 census is George David's father. I just cant find Mary Louisa as a child, and the family i think is her on the 1891 census is to difficult to read. thank yo so much for your reply.

Lynn

Sue C

Sue C Report 31 Dec 2010 11:08

1891....Could Matilda be Tilly?

WATKINS, ? Head Married M 64 1827 Labourer
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1852
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, George Son Single M 17 1874 Labourer
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Edward D Son M 13 1878 Labourer
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Matilda Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Sarah Jane Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Mary L Daughter F 3 1888
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Caroline Daughter F 0 (10M) 1891
Swansea
Glamorganshire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4476 Folio:
7 Page:
46

Registration District:
Swansea Sub District:
Llangyfelach Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
St John Municipal Borough:
Swansea Address:
42, Villiers Street, St John, Hafod, Swansea County:
Glamorganshire



Same family in 1901. No Matilda, but there is now a Llwellyn and Mary is showing up as Louisa.

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WATKINS, Hezekiah Head Married M 59 1842 Watch Man
Llanfabon
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1855
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Edward D Son Single M 23 1878 General Labourer
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 16 1885 Servant Domestic
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Louisa Daughter Single F 13 1888 School
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Caroline Daughter Single F 10 1891 School
Swansea
Glamorganshire
WATKINS, Llewelyn Son M 7 1894 School
Swansea
Glamorganshire

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
5073 Folio:
14 Page:
20

Registration District:
Swansea Sub District:
Llangafelach Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John

Civil Parish:
Swansea Municipal Borough:
Address:
42, Villiers Street, Swansea County:
Glamorganshire




LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:09

The marriage where he also uses George

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)

HURFORD George David Swansea 11a 1607
WATKINS Mary Louisa Swansea 11a 1607

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:10

Looks good Sue C

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:14

1881 census - household transcription
Person: WATKINS, George
Address: 18, Colborne St, Swansea (Town)
WATKINS, Edward Head Married M 40 1841 Labourer
Swansea Glamorganshire Wales
WATKINS, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1855
Swansea Glamorganshire Wales
WATKINS, George Son Single M 7 1874
Swansea Glamorganshire Wales
WATKINS, Edward Son Single M 4 1877
Swansea Glamorganshire Wales
WATKINS, Tilda Daughter Single F 0 1881
Swansea Glamorganshire Wales

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:16

1911 census - household transcription
Person: WATKINS, Caroline
Address: 42 Villiers St Swansea
WATKINS, Ezakiah Head Married M 68 1843 Watchman Unable To Work Merthyr Glamorgan
WATKINS, Sarah Wife Married
35 years F 51 1860 Charwoman Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Caroline Daughter Single F 20 1891 Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Llewellynn Son Single M 18 1893 Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Daniel Son Married M 34 1877 Fireman Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Edith Wife Married
10 years F 32 1879 Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Mary Edith Daughter F 8 1903 Swansea Glam
WATKINS, Ernest Son M 5 1906 Swansea Glam

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Dec 2010 11:19

1911Address: 14 Earl St Swansea
FISHER, Henry Head Married M 36 1875 Labourer Bath Somersetshire
FISHER, Matilda Wife Married
12 years F 30 1881 Swansea Glam
FISHER, Mary Edith Daughter F 11 1900 Swansea Glam
FISHER, Henry Son M 9 1902 Swansea Glam
FISHER, Edward John Son M 8 1903 Swansea Glam
FISHER, William George Son M 4 1907 Swansea Glam
FISHER, Richard Son M 2 1909 Swansea Glam

Lynn

Lynn Report 31 Dec 2010 11:28

Hi Ladykira, SueC and Mel, Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! you are all amazing. Thank you so much.

from a very happy Lynn

Lynn

Lynn Report 7 Apr 2011 12:03

Hi All,

I have started to try and find the parents of Ezekiah Watkins, and hope someone will be able to help:)

I have the birth certificate for Hezekiah:- born 17.2.1842 Llanfabon Merthyr tydfil, Mother Mary Watkins late Evans formerly Williams, Father Daniel Watkins Berth Llwyd, coal miner. Any help with this would be very much appreciated.

Edit:- the only marriage i can find so far is A Daniel Watkins to Anne Williams , and i have had no luck with the birth of Daniel:( will keep looking.
Lynn

Lynn

Lynn Report 7 Apr 2011 14:32

Still struggling to find Hezekiah's parents, its odd that no births are showing for Daniel Watkins c1822 there must be a few some where! off to look again.

Lynn

Lynn

Lynn Report 7 Apr 2011 16:33

i think i have found the marriage for Daniel Watkins to Mary Evans 1840 2nd qtr Merthyr Tydfil, Am i right to send off for this certificate? Mary's name on the birth certificate is down as late Evans formerly Williams, so would she marry under the name of evans or Williams? any advice would be very much appreciated.

thank you:)

Lynn

safc

safc Report 7 Apr 2011 17:17

????

Name: Daniel Watkins
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 1817
Baptism/Christening Place: TWYN-YR-ODYN PRESBYTERIAN OR UNITARIAN,MERTHYR TYDFIL,GLAMORGAN,WALES
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1817
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Rees Watkins
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anna Saunders
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10302-1
System Origin: Wales-ODM
Source Film Number: 813541
Reference Number:
Collection: Wales Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907