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Military papers , enlistment record

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Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 15:11

You lovely people are so kind , thank you for all the help .

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 6 Jan 2011 15:10

Douglas is listed as being home from 16th April 1911 and the census in 1911 was taken on 2nd April so Douglas was probably on a ship at the time on his way back from Ceylon!!

RobG

RobG Report 6 Jan 2011 15:03

And finally from me...
Took a quick look at the 1911 Census (free search, as I don't have full access).

Although Douglas was probably still serving elsewhere, there is an Annie Leuty at Farnham District, along with her are these children (with DoB):
Douglas (1894), Cyril (1901), Violet (1901) Basil (1903), Wilfrid Ronald (1905), Arthur (1907) and Bernard (1908)
Now with that list, I can recognise Cyril, Violet, Basil and Wilfrid Ronald through the gloom on the NoK page.

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 15:02

Thank you so much , that's brilliant .

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 6 Jan 2011 14:54

Just a few personal details to help you build up a picture (if you don't have any)

On enlistment he was described as
5' 5" tall
107lb in weight
Chest 34" - 36" fully expanded
Complexion - sallow
Eyes - hazel
Hair - dark brown
Religion - C of E

Small scar on forehead
Dot tattoo'd on left forearm

He was enlisted into the 2nd North Stafford Regiment

RobG

RobG Report 6 Jan 2011 14:49

Service shown as:

1893 - 1905 = Home
1905 - 1907 = Malta
1907 - 1910 = Home
1910 - 1911 = Ceylon (now Sri Lanka, then part of British India)
1911 - 1911 = Home

There are various details of his service - promotions, regiments, etc - as well as possibly confirming all those kids, so certainly worth taking a look.

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:47

Thank you , you wonderful people . & happy new year to you all .

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 6 Jan 2011 14:45

The records show he was posted at home between 1893 and 1905

In Malta between 1905 and 1907

Home between 1907 and 1910

Ceylon September 1910 to April 1911

Home April to May 1911

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:42

Although having said thanks, would that include his service in India ,.?

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:39

Lovely thanks very much all of you .

RobG

RobG Report 6 Jan 2011 14:38

Reading through what has been posted whilst I was away searching, I think the service record I found on Ancestry, filed under Lenty is the right one.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 6 Jan 2011 14:36

You won't find any Army records on the National Archives website. All surviving Army records for those discharged up to 1913 are on the FindMyPast website.

RobG

RobG Report 6 Jan 2011 14:34

If the Douglas Leuty who married Annie Cann is the right one, then a service record for his earlier service (1893-1911) is on Ancestry in the WW1 Pension Records. Usually when you find an earlier record like this, it is attached to their WW1 service record, but this is either not there or lost in Ancestry's indexing!!!!! This record is indexed as LENTY.
Unfortunately it is quite a dark print, so it is difficult to ready his place of birth, though it looks like it may be Kennington, certainly then London, Surrey.
His age is given as 20 years and 10 months (as at Jan 1893) although further on it says 20 years --- months!!
His original NoK was given as his mother Elizabeth. but later changed to Wife. Their marriage is shown, along with details of what looks like about eight children, though again, owing to the dark print these are almost unreadable. However, if you think this may be the correct man, you may be able to recognise the names against what you already know.

Hope this helps.

Rob

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:29

Thanks CherryBlossom, Just to let you know 1891 cenus he is living with his Aunt , (mothers sister) , thanks again

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 6 Jan 2011 14:26

Hi Margaret

It might be worth having a look at the national archives records to see if you can find anything for Douglas Leuty as Flick suggested.

I quite enjoyed working out the puzzle, so no worries Margaret....

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 6 Jan 2011 14:23

Hi Flick - the 1881 census was the one I was drawn to....

In 1891 Elizabeth and Annie are still living together but there is no Douglas with them. I can't see either a Douglas Leuty or Robinson that fits the bill in 1891 so perhaps he had already enlisted and had changed his name????

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:22

Well i am so sorry to have wasted your time then , but i did not ask for his detail's , i only asked where i could find his military papers .

Margaret

Margaret Report 6 Jan 2011 14:21

May i just add so people don't think i am an idiot or something , Robinson was not his fathers name it was his mothers birth name .

Flick

Flick Report 6 Jan 2011 14:20

CB......looks like it was all wasted effort......how utterly infuriating!

Flick

Flick Report 6 Jan 2011 14:19

You should have told us ALL you knew.....instead of letting us waste time finding that which you already KNEW