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Hi,
Would someone please have a look for the marriage of
Mary Ann Hunt and Thomas Emmerson Chandler

I can only find the BMD for it on Ancestry.I haven't been able to find it on Marriages and banns

I think I've been searching correctly

It's very annoying,I have found her sisters with my couple as the witness's!

Any way the marriage I'm after is

Mary Ann Hunt
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Strand (1837-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b


Name: Thomas -Min----- Chandler
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Strand (1837-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b

Thanks

Blue

Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
Bridger Elizabeth Strand 1b 607
CHANDLER Thomas -min----- Strand 1b 607
Dale James John Strand 1b 607
Hunt Mary Ann Strand 1b 607

Hi,
yes this is the BMD entry for them.It's the London England marriages and banns I'm hoping to find,so as to save buying another cert.

Thanks
Blue

Hi Blue,

As safc is pointing out there is a postem note attached to that record on freebmd. If you click on the envelope icon you will see the note they have added.

Kind regards,

Cathy

Thanks Cathy,
might be one from me,his middle name is mistranscribed.
Will go on now to see what it is


Blue

Oh yes it is, I had a look

Hi Cathy,
yes that's the note i put on some time ago.I have his baptism now and all other records so I'm certain his middle name is Emmerson


Blue

They weren't RC so I can't understand why I can't find them in marriages and banns.

Blue

Have you got him in any census as i can only fint one Thomas married to a Mary Ann in 1861?

There are 3 trees on Ancestry with a Thomas Emmerson Chandler born 1836 in Brighton is that the same man?

Here is the 1881
I think Thomas and Mary were living with her parents in 1861
Thomas Hunt and Mary

Mary A. Chandler
[Mary A. Hunt]
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Chandler
Mother's name: Mary Ann Hunt
Gender: Female
Where born: St James, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: No 59 Eltham St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Bookfolder

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Chandler 43
Mary A. Chandler 45
Mary A. Chandler 19
Francis Chandler 17
William Chandler 8
Mary Ann Hunt 64
Alice Hunt 25
Susan Hunt 22

will look on the 1861 i have for her parents

Blue

Yes They are on the 1861 with her parents.

Thomas Hunt

Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Hunt
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Southwark St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 274
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hunt 45
Mary Hunt 43
William Hunt 21
Charlotte Hunt 19
Thomas Hunt 15
Elizabeth Hunt 12
Emma Hunt 10
Angelina Hunt 8
Alice Hunt 6
Susanah Hunt 2
Thomas Chandler 25
Mary Chandler 25
Thomas Chandler 3
John Chandler 1
Elizabeth Yarn 24

Hi
yes that's the same man,Thomas was born in Brighton so was his sister Emma.As far as i can make out they are the only two children of John Richardson Chandler and Eliza

Blue

1891 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, Thomas E
Address: 8a, Chatham Street, Newington
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CHANDLER, Thomas E Head Married M 54 1837 House Decorator
Brighton
CHANDLER, Mary Wife Married F 56 1835
London Golden Square Green Street
CHANDLER, Wm A Son Single M 19 1872 House Decorator
Walworth London
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RG number: RG12 Piece: 354 Folio: 49 Page: 58
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark Sub District: Trinity Newington Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish:St Johns
Civil Parish: Newington

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, Mary Ann
Address: 84 Darwin Street Walworth
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SMITH, Samuel Head Married M 49 1862 General Labourer Boro Council Southwark London
SMITH, Mary Ann Charlotte Wife Married
28 years F 48 1863 Southwark London
SMITH, Francis William Son Single M 25 1886 Tram Conducter County Council Southwark London
SMITH, Mary Ann Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1896 Dressmaker Apprentice Southwark London
SMITH, Emilt Rose Daughter F 9 1902 School Southwark London
CHANDLER, Mary Ann Mother In Law Widow F 75 1836 None London City of Wesminster
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RG number: RG14 Piece: 1812 Reference:
RG14PN1812 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED20 SN240
Registration District: Southwark Sub District: Newington North Enumeration District: 20 Parish: St Mary Newington

Address:
84 Darwin Street Walworth County:
London

Do you have this record Blue?

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941

Name: Mary Ann Chandler of 84 Darwen street Walworth Surrey
Probate Date: 15 Feb 1918
Death Date: 15 Jan 1918
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London
£148 7s 11d to John Richardson Chandler Grocer

Hi Cathy

No I don't have either of these records thank you so much for them.

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Shall print them out

Blue

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHANDLER, John
Address: 7 Inville Road Walworth
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CHANDLER, John Head Married M 50 1861 Grocer Southwark Surrey
CHANDLER, Mary Wife Married 11 years F 50 1861 Devonport Devon
CHANDLER, Williams Son Single M 21 1890 Newspaper Cyclists Southwark Surrey
CHANDLER, Percy Son Single M 18 1893 Printer Warehouseman Southwark Surrey

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RG number: RG14 Piece: 1835 Reference:
RG14PN1835 RG78PN65 RD23 SD5 ED17 SN176
Registration District: Southwark Sub District: Newington South Enumeration District: 17 Parish: St Mary Newington

Before 1898, all non-conformist marrs (not just RC) were recorded in the registrar's register, as well as register office marrs. Maybe that's why you've not found it.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941

Name: John Richardson Chandler of 18 Allendale Rd, Denmark Hill
Probate Date: 3 Jul 1920
Death Date: 25 May 1920
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London

£1501 14s 10d to Henry George Durrant Grocer

I think the reason you're not finding the marriage is that only the records from the LMA were "done" by Ancestry. As the marriage was in Strand (Westminster) the records will be at the Westminster Archives.

Hope that made sense!!

Maureen