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I'm trying to find out what happened to Sarah Love from Skirling, near Peebles, Lanarkshire, born around 1835 who married my widowed Gt.Gt. Grandfather, James Mills, in 1864 in West Bromwhich. I found her on a census in 1861, a hawker and lodger aged 26 along with 2 of my Gt. Gt Grandfather's daughters. After that, apart from their marriage, 3 years later she disappears. He reappears in 1891 in Shropshire as a widower, though he was much older being born in 1819.
I tried to find her on herebefore but thought that she was from Lincolnshire, so I appologise for that.
Any help appreciated.

I have looked on the 1891 census to find James Mills born 1819 living in Shropshire and I cannot find him.

Can you give more information. I cannot find Sarah Love in the 1861 census either?

Had another look at 1891 census - he was born in 1820.

You say that 'he was much older being born in 1819'.

Do you know when he was actually born?

For reference -

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
Love Sarah W. Bromwich 6b 912
Mills James W Bromwich 6b 912

Peebles is not in Lanarkshire.

Can you post the 1861 census that you have found please?

OK found it now.

1861

Name: Sarah Lowe
[Sarah Love]
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Spauling, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Westwood 31
Ann Westwood 32
Samuel James 15
Sarah Lowe 26
Mary Ann Mills 16
Elizabeth Mills 11

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2025; Folio: 72; Page: 29; GSU roll: 542905


Birth place does look more like Lincolnshire than Lanarkshire on the actual image.

What is the info you have for her being born Peebles?

Ozi

I think it is more likely to be this person.

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Love
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Pauper
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Spalding
Ecclesiastical parish: South Holland
Town: Spalding
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Occupation: Servant

Registration district: Spalding <<<<<<<<<
Sub-registration district: Pinchbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse

1841 England Census
Name: Sarah Love
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Grantham
Hundred: Winnibriggs and Threo
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Back Street

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Love 30 - labourer
Ann Love 25
Elizabeth Love 8
Sarah Love 5
Thomas Love 3
Emma Love 1

All born in county.

To Lynne: he was baptised in 1819 in Uffington Parish Church but 1820 is close enough.
Thank you

Rootgatherer: If you look t the census it looks like Spalding, Lincolnshire, but the personal information says she was born in Skirling and it says Lancashire. I understood that Skirling was in Lanarkshire. That entry on the personal information that accompanies the census really threw me. So she was from Spalding after all.

For Lynne: he was baptised on the 11th September, 1819 in Uffington, Shropshire, near to his home in Upton Magna. He first of all married Maria Luscott in Shrewsbury in 1843 but after giving birth to 3 daughters and moving backwards and forwards to and from Shropshire to Dudley, Maria died in 1854. in Shrewsbury. I have her death certificate. The next sighting of the children is in 1861 in West Bromwich. One daughter, Harriet is not present, neither is James.

What personal information on which census? I don't understand.

Ozi

1851 also in the workhouse:
Benjamin Love abt 1808 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire
Ann Love abt 1808 Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire
Elizabeth Love abt 1833 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire
Emma Love abt 1839 Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire
Eliza Love abt 1842 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire
Charlotte Love abt 1848 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Pauper Spalding, Lincolnshire

For Ozibird. On Genes reunited when youn search the records for a particular census and find a likely candidate you can press on VIEW (purple button) or IMAGE to see the actual record. View shows you information on that particular person, age, status, relationship to head of household and place of birth. for Sarah Love it give the place of birth as Skirling, Lancashire. I don't think Skirling is in Lancashire it's in Lanakshire. I thought Skirling was near Peebles. However, the on the actual record it looks more like Spalding, Lincolnshire. I'm flumoxed.
And where did they go after they were married?

Carole, If youu look at the actual image of the 1861 (it is certainly quite feint), the second letter of the birth county looks like an "i" as it is dotted unlike "a". I still think that it says Linconshire (without the "l") Like Ozibird, I think that is her in 1851. Perhaps the poor relief records have survived and would give more details of why she was in the Union Workhouse.

Did she give a father's name and occupation on her marriage to James please?

I just wonder if this age has been mistranscribed. She would have been about 36.

Deaths Sep 1872
MILLS Sarah 86 W. Bromwich 6b 409

Carole, I had to have a chuckle. I've been searching censuses for over 20 years. I know where to find the info. I just wondered where YOU found it as I couldn't see any reference to Skirling or Lanarkshire anywhere I found her.

Now I understand. As with rootgatherer, It is quite obviously "Linconshire [no 'L'] Spauling" on the image, and transcribed by Ancestry as Spauling Lincolnshire.



Is this the Annie, who is with James in 1891? And is she Sarah's daughter.
Births Sep 1868
MILLS Annie Dudley 6c 3

For rootgatherer: now you have me banged to rights because I'm still waiting for the certificate! I know from family sources that his second wife was called Sarah. I have discussed this with West Midland Births,Marriages and Deaths and the confirm that a James Mills did marry a Sarah Love in Jun 1864 at Holy Trinity Church West Bromwich. I'm taking a leap of fath because I can't find any other young women with the name Sarah Love in that area except for the girl that was lodging with his daughters in the home of the Westwood family who were not related.

Ozibird: He died in Wombridge, Shropshire in 1892 living round the corner from his second daughter, Harriet (by now Mrs Knight) who attended his death. His other two daughters from his first marriage also married in Shropshire.
It's just possible isn't it that the age of the woman who died was 36 not 86.
That would account for her going 'missing'.