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Janice

Janice Report 23 Feb 2011 17:03

Hi can any of you clever people help me find out the mother of Elizabeth Sarah upsdell, born about 1856, she married B Morez in 1876 I believe her father's name was James Upsdell but cannot find any records to confirm her parents or siblings, Many thanks Jan

Flick

Flick Report 23 Feb 2011 17:06

Location, please...................

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Feb 2011 17:07

You need her birth cert to be sure of parents......


Births Mar 1857
Upsdell Elizabeth Sarah - Camberwell 1d 493

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 17:08

What area please

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Upsdell Name: Elizabeth Upsdell
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Upsdell
Mother's Name: Elenor Upsdell
Gender: Female
Where born: Havant, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Hunston
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Westhampnett
Sub-registration district: Wyke
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Upsdell 48
Elenor Upsdell 52
Charles Upsdell 19
George Upsdell 11
Elizabeth Upsdell 9
Robert Smith 30
Joseph Doling 20


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 17:11

It does read Morez on the form.


1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Morey Name: Elizabeth Morey
[Elizabeth Morez]
[Elizabeth Upsdell]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Morey
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:198 Neale St or Nease

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members: Name Age
John Morey 45
Elizabeth Morey 47
John Morey 15
Maud Morey 12
George Morey 2


Flick

Flick Report 23 Feb 2011 17:13

1891

Name: Benjamin Morey
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Morey
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Morey 33
Elizabeth Morey 34 b. Peckham
Elizabeth S Morey 9
Charles H Morey 5
Maud M Morey 2


Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Feb 2011 17:14

That's a different Elizabeth I think ( Not El.iz Sarah)

Births Mar 1852
UPSDELL Elizabeth - Havant 2b 342

Helen

Helen Report 23 Feb 2011 17:14


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
Name: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
Spouse Name: Benjamin John Moroz
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Jun 1876
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Upsdell
Spouse Father Name: William Thomas Moroz

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:15

Elizabeth Sarah UPSDELL Compact Disc #146 Pin #4520605 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 1866

London
Death: UNKNOWN
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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Benjamin John MOREZ Disc #146 Pin #4520604
Marriage:

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 17:15

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell Name: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
Spouse Name: Benjamin John Moroz
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Jun 1876
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Upsdell DECEASED *********
Spouse Father Name: William Thomas Moroz Labourer******

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Feb 2011 17:16

freebmd have the name different ....


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Marriages Jun 1876 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hughes John St. Saviour 1d 222
...................MOREY Benjamin John - St Saviour 1d 222
MORTON Emily St. Saviour 1d 222
.....................Upsdell Elizabeth Sarah - St Saviour 1d 222

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:17

Elizabeth Upsdale

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1866 — Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
residence: Shoreditch, London, Middlesex, England
parents: David Upsdale, Emily Upsdale

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:18

Benjamin John Morez

England Marriages, 1538–1973
parents: William Thomas Morez
spouse: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
marriage: 04 Jun 1876 — St. John, Walworth, Surrey, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Benjamin John Morez
bride's name: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
marriage date: 04 Jun 1876
marriage place: St. John, Walworth, Surrey, England
groom's father's name: William Thomas Morez
bride's father's name: James Upsdell
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01112-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 291744

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:19

William Morez

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1831 — Bermondsey, Surrey, England
residence: Camberwell, Surrey, England
spouse: E. Morez

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: William Morez
age: 50
gender: Male
birth year: 1831
birthplace: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: Labourer
address: 4 Walters Cott
census place: Camberwell, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341163
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 0698 / 109
page number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:21

James Upsdell

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1836 — Peckham, Surrey, England
residence: Newington, Surrey, England
spouse: Sophia Upsdell

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: James Upsdell
age: 45
gender: Male
birth year: 1836
birthplace: Peckham, Surrey, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: Carman
address: 28 Uxbridge St
census place: Newington, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341121
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 0534 / 98
page number: 29

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:21

James Upsdell

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 12 Aug 1834
residence: Surrey, England
parents: Abraham Upsdell, Emma

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Upsdell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Sep 1834
baptism/christening place: PECKHAM HANOVER CHAPEL-INDEPENDENT,CAMBERWELL,SURREY,ENGLAND
birth date: 12 Aug 1834
father's name: Abraham Upsdell
mother's name: Emma
indexing project (batch) number: C09757-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 825327

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 17:21

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Sarah Upsdele Name: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdele
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 493

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Feb 2011 17:23

James Upsdell

England Marriages, 1538–1973

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Benjamin John Morez
bride's name: Elizabeth Sarah Upsdell
marriage date: 04 Jun 1876
marriage place: St. John, Walworth, Surrey, England
groom's father's name: William Thomas Morez
bride's father's name: James Upsdell
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01112-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 291744

Flick

Flick Report 23 Feb 2011 17:25

The father's name on the marriage record could have been invented

Her birth cert is the way to get accurate info

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 17:42

Definately read Upsdell but is also William and not James But the witnesses to her marriage were J Upsdell and S Upsdell so could have been brother and sister.

1861 England Census
about Lezzey Spidell Name: Lezzey Spidell
[Lizzey Upsdell]
[Lezzey Upsdell?]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: Abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Spidell
Mother's Name: Ann Spidell
Gender: Female
Where born: St Geler Cambe, Surrey, England
[St Giles Camberwell, Surrey, England]

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: st mary magdalene
County/Island: Surrey

Street Address: Rye Common

Occupation:

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
William Spidell 56
Ann Spidell 57
Henry Spidell 24
Sarah Spidell 22
Jacob Spidell 16
Lezzey Spidell 4

Piece: 383; Folio: 179; Page: 19