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Hi , I wonder if anyone can help me ? I have the marriage certificate of Charles William Redgrave married to Constance Evelyn Robinson October 15th 1938, in St. Stephen and St. Mary Church Westminster London.I would like to know if anyone is related to these people and where they lived proir to their marriage and after . I cant make out wether they are actually related to me. Many thanks to all you helpers

You need to search for matches using "search trees" above for starters. As you have the marriage cert you have their ages so rough birth years. you could also search for matches for their fathers.
You could also look for their births on Freebmd and if you can locate them see what their mothers' maiden names were..
How did you come by this cert, ot of interest?
Jan

Where did you get the cert?

Do any of the names feature in your tree?

To find contacts on GR.....look in search trees

The ages are Charles 27 And Constance 26, ordered the certificate because i though that Constance Robinson was related to my late Mother-in-law, thus allowing me to go back or forth to try and find more relatives

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Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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REDGRAVE Charles W Knight St Geo. H. Sq 1a 789

The father's name will be on the cert...........does it tally with what you know?

Are you saying you are stuck with your mother-in-law? If you haven't already done so, I would put details on here for us to have a crack at it.
Jan

The best way to follow through with your MIL is to tell us her details..............as she is deceased, there is no issue with privacy.......and we'll see what we can find

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Name: Constance Evelyn Redgrave
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1998
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: B35
District and Subdistrict: 2221B
Entry Number: 122

This looks like the lady's death.

Name: Constance Evelyn Redgrave
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1998
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: B35
District and Subdistrict: 2221B
Entry Number: 122


Assuming that she hadn't been married before and that Robinson was her maiden name, then one of these births May be hers. Does the MMN match with your knowledge of your late mother-in-law's family?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Robinson Constance E Dewhurst Ipswich 4a 1871
Robinson Constance E Blake Eastbourne 2b 136

the signatures on the marriage certificate are Alice Robinson And George William Baker, The fathers names are William Robert Redgrave (shop assistant) and Horace Robinson (deceased). Mother-in-law was Eileen Robinson b. 8th July 1914 West Ham died in July 2005

This one?

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Robinson Eileen Shephard W.Ham 4a 604


If it is, this is the ONLY cert you need to find out about her parents

Offering this marriage record as possibility ONLY..............

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Hunter Albert Robert W. Ham 4a 651
Robinson Clemens William W W. Ham 4a 651 <<<<<<<<<
Samuel Margaret Jane W. Ham 4a 651
Shephard Alice Maud W. Ham 4a 651 <<<<<<<


No other births in West Ham after 1911 for Robinson/Shephard

There are these other births with the MMN as ShephErd.

Any of them familiar as her siblings please?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Sep 1911 Robinson Elsie J M Shepherd W. Ham 4a 596
Births Dec 1915 ROBINSON Daisy E Shepherd W.Ham 4a 564
Births Sep 1918 Robinson Ivy E Shepherd W.Ham 4a 363
Births Mar 1920 Robinson George H Shepherd W.Ham 4a 735

well i have only got Albert Robinson married to a Elizabeth Shepherd and 8 siblings living at 71 fourth avenue, manor park, london on 1911 census, but cant make out all the names of the children, so maybe the 4 children after 1911 are her siblings! But do you think this Horace Robinson has any connection? has anyone found the family or connections on 1901 Census? thanks for helping me , I have not found this tree easy

The first thing you need to do is get Eileen's birth certificate to confirm her parent's names. Do you have her marriage certificate please? What is her father's name and occupation on that?

Regarding Horace - you don't have any proof yet (or at least that you have shared with us) that Constance is related to Eileen.

Do you know where Eileen was born please? Do you know for sure that her mother's maiden surname was Shephard? Please tell us all you know if you want us to help.

If you are trying to do this without buying any certificates you could very easily end up with a completely inaccurate and worthless tree - especially with such a common surname.

Eileen s birth certificate say her father was Alfred Robinson and was a builders labourer and mother was Elizabeth Robinson formally Shepherd. Eileen was born in West Ham 8th July 1914 Eileen was married to Edward Cash in West Ham in 1935 Thank you rootgather x

P.S. Many thanks to EVERYONE !!!

When did Eileen die? What was her surname?

As she died so recently, one assumes that you knew her......did she ever say what her father's name was?

Doesn't your husband know the names of his grandparents?

To be perfectly honest, you seem to be approaching this search in the wrong way entirely.

Don't look for marriages of people who may - or may not - be siblings.

Get 100% accurate info about Eileen's parentage as your FIRST priority....then spread the search wider.........

Don't try to guess whether Horace is related...........he probably isn't, to be blunt.

If you would like us to help you - it is imperative that you help us to do so, by telling us clearly all you KNOW about Eileen.......and any of her relations about whom you have facts.

Our postings crossed

You should have told us all this before................would have saved a lot of unnecessary searching

What prompted you to get the 1938 marriage cert?

Or did it come to you through family?