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Hi, The marriage certificate is correct, I bought it once I got conformation through family, I was hoping that children of Eileen's siblings might get in touch thro G.R. once I posted on here, I am very grateful to all who are helping, coz I dont have the experience like you boffins out there, need loads more practice!!! You are right about Constance

What Flick meant, I think, was Did you buy the 1938 certificate or did it come down through the family?

To answer your original question - it doesn't look as though Constance Robinson was a sibling of your mother-in-law.

Sorry it's actually ALBERT. I am in possession of the cerificate

Let's get something cleared up

You keep referring to ALFRED...............the only records found are for ALBERT

Which is the CORRECT name?

ALL the names are clearly shown on the 1911 census transcription - I'm not sure why you say you can't read them.............

Take your time................check your facts...............there isn't any rush

And PLEASE tell us where you got the 1938 cert....I've asked before, and you haven't responded.

yes i have looked but its not been fruitful, thats why i am having trouble putting things together, dont no how you clever people do it!!

Elizabeths father on certificate was Edward Shepherd a labourer,she was 19 when she got married

Have you looked for all the above names in other members' trees?
Jan

Alfred & Elizabeths marriage 8th August 1892, both fathers are Henry Robinson & Edward Shepherd married Old Ford London. I am looking For any Desendants of theRobinson 's to help put this tree together and find relatives to date if possible. 1911 Census 71 Fourth Avenue, Manor Park ,London E.12, on the census states Albert ,Elizabeth, then children , ?,(cant read name) Georgina 12, Albert 10, Florence 9 , Arthur 6, cant read next 2 children i think next one says William, Sorry I have no more information.

So you know these are her parents for a fact? Do you have father's details from her marriage cert?

1911

ROBINSON, Albert Head Married M 37 1874 House Painter London St Luks VIEW
ROBINSON, Elizabeth Wife Married
19 years F 35 1876 London Hackney VIEW
ROBINSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1897 Domestic Servant London Bow VIEW
ROBINSON, Georgina Daughter F 12 1899 School London Bow VIEW
ROBINSON, Albert Son M 10 1901 School London Bow VIEW
ROBINSON, Florence Daughter F 9 1902 Essex East Ham VIEW
ROBINSON, Arther Son M 6 1905 Essex East Ham VIEW
ROBINSON, Edith Daughter F 4 1907 Essex East Ham VIEW
ROBINSON, Harrold Son M 2 1909 Essex East Ham VIEW
ROBINSON, William Son M 11 1900 Essex East Ham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9589 Reference:
RG14PN9589 RG78PN510B RD188 SD6 ED33 SN60

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
North East Ham Enumeration District:
33 Parish:
East Ham

Address:
71 Fourth Avenue Manor Park E County:
Essex

was suggested by a family member as they are older than my husband , he was very young and only vaguely remembered a few auntie & uncle names, his parents never said much as Eileen was a catholic & her husband Edward was a Jew, but my hubby seems to think it was his dads relations that he remembers, and nothing much about his mums side, so hoping he might find relatives on G.R that may want to exchange stories THANKS AGAIN

The full details of 1911 census would be helpful.........please post them for our enlightenment.

Sorry, I don't see an obvious marriage coming up for Alfred and Elizabeth. I have to go out now but will look back tomorrow - hopefully someone will have found it by then.

Now, please tell us what you are actually looking for...................

??????? Long shot

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Chandler Mary Poplar 1c 919
Robinson Albert Poplar 1c 919 <<<<<
Rogers Adam Poplar 1c 919
SHEPHERD Elizabeth Mary Poplar 1c 919 <<<<<<

What prompted you to get the 1938 marriage cert?

Or did it come to you through family?

Our postings crossed

You should have told us all this before................would have saved a lot of unnecessary searching

When did Eileen die? What was her surname?

As she died so recently, one assumes that you knew her......did she ever say what her father's name was?

Doesn't your husband know the names of his grandparents?

To be perfectly honest, you seem to be approaching this search in the wrong way entirely.

Don't look for marriages of people who may - or may not - be siblings.

Get 100% accurate info about Eileen's parentage as your FIRST priority....then spread the search wider.........

Don't try to guess whether Horace is related...........he probably isn't, to be blunt.

If you would like us to help you - it is imperative that you help us to do so, by telling us clearly all you KNOW about Eileen.......and any of her relations about whom you have facts.

P.S. Many thanks to EVERYONE !!!

Eileen s birth certificate say her father was Alfred Robinson and was a builders labourer and mother was Elizabeth Robinson formally Shepherd. Eileen was born in West Ham 8th July 1914 Eileen was married to Edward Cash in West Ham in 1935 Thank you rootgather x

The first thing you need to do is get Eileen's birth certificate to confirm her parent's names. Do you have her marriage certificate please? What is her father's name and occupation on that?

Regarding Horace - you don't have any proof yet (or at least that you have shared with us) that Constance is related to Eileen.

Do you know where Eileen was born please? Do you know for sure that her mother's maiden surname was Shephard? Please tell us all you know if you want us to help.

If you are trying to do this without buying any certificates you could very easily end up with a completely inaccurate and worthless tree - especially with such a common surname.