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But he is accounted for in 1901.

Name: John Blay
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Blay
Gender: Male
Where born: Coogdon, Surrey, England
[Croydon]

Civil parish: Battersea

John Blay 24
Ellen Blay 27
Ellen Blay 10 Months


Somebody's made that correction at Ancestry, so one could always enquire!

sharonlondon, do you have your John's death?


This is the best match I see for the John H:

Name: John H Blay
Death Registration Month/Year: 1930
Age at death (estimated): 52 = c1878
Registration district: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 158

Possibly yours --

Name: John Blay
Death Registration Month/Year: 1960
Age at death (estimated): 81 = c1879
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 540

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Hi Janey
Yes he's the 1960 death,
I've been a bit thrown by the thought he could have been born with a different surname - I thought it was bad enough he could be using his middle name!!
I have been eliminating Blay boys born between 1875 - 79 (so far 20 down & 24 to go) but a different surname just fills me with dread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But thinking about it, it does explain him just turning up in 1901 - but I do so hope that theory is wrong!
Once again,thank you all so much for taking the time to look & reply - it is really appreciated.
Sharon

If it were me I would be buying the 1885 marriage cert of Thomas Blay to see if he was a Lamp Maker ....and to check which bride was his of course.

What about this Thomas in 1901?

BRAY, Thos Head Married M 40 1861 ***Lamp Maker**** London
BRAY, Lena H Wife Married F 32 1869 London
BRAY, Maud M Daughter Single F 9 1892 London
BRAY, Mabel W Daughter Single F 4 1897 London

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
345 Folio:
77 Page:
34

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michael's

Civil Parish:
Bromley Municipal Borough:
Address:
15, Ailsa Street, Bromley, London County:
London

I will see if I can trace him back with a John................

Dea x

Unfortunately - I don't think the above is them!!!

There is a Mary Bray with son Frederick next door to them on 1901 so I
would think this is the same family on 1881 - no 'John' and still called 'Bray'
.................. drattt !!!!!!!!

BRAY, Thomas Head Married M 50 1831 Tin Plate Worker London Islington, London Middlesex
BRAY, Mary Wife Married F 48 1833 London Islington, London Middlesex
BRAY, Thomas Son Single M 20 1861 Brazier London St Lukes, London Middlesex
BRAY, Frederick Son Single M 17 1864 Costume Maker London St Lukes, London Middlesex

RG11 Piece:250 Folio:58 Page:18

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Islington East Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
48, Ecclesbourne Rd, Islington County:
Middlesex

Dea x

I dunno, that's a big coincidence, lamp maker.

Marriages Jun 1886
Bray Thomas Holborn 1b 968
Fowls Lena Hetty Holborn 1b 968

I'd meant to investigate Bray, when I noticed a bunch of Blays had been born in Bray, Berkshire. ;)

Family is the same in 1871 though (I'd wondered about older daughters), in Hackney:

Thomasb Bray 40 - tin plate maker
Mary Bray 38
Thomas Bray 10
Fred Bray 8