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24 Mar 2011 21:37 |
ALVARO ARCHIBALD H KIBBLE was born in 1894.
In the 1901 Census, he is living with his Grandmother Mary Louisa Kibble - although his first names have been turned around.
Please can someone find him in the 1911 Census? I have tried some permutations but I'm not very good with the 1911 yet.
Many thanks.
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GlitterBaby
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24 Mar 2011 21:50 |
Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600
So obviously not looking for him with his grandmother
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24 Mar 2011 21:52 |
Does the initial of H stand for Henry?
Army Pension Record Name: Archibald Henry Kibble Document Year: 1919 Regimental Number: 337199 Regiment Name: Royal Army Medical Corps Number of images: 16
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24 Mar 2011 21:56 |
Yup, knew about his grandmama's death - RIP.
The 'H' almost certainly stands for 'Hervey', but not 100% on that one. And just for good measure, Hervey often gets misheard/mistranscribed in our family . . .
Thanks, GB!
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Liz 47
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24 Mar 2011 21:56 |
Is this his marriage - Liz
MarriageFinderâ„¢: Archibald H Kibble married May G Mouat Name: KIBBLE, Archibald H Registration District: Help Toxteth Park County: Lancashire Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Mouat Volume No: Help 8B Page No: Help 346 Name: MOUAT, May G Registration District: Toxteth Park County: Lancashire Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Kibble Volume No: 8B Page No: 346
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24 Mar 2011 21:58 |
Yes I think that is the marriage as it matches the nest of kin on Pension Records
Mrs M G Kibble 179 North Hill (Mill ?) St, Liverpool
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Liz 47
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24 Mar 2011 22:03 |
Sorry - can't find him on the l9ll, but it looks as if Mary died between census. On his birth reg. his name is give as Alvano. Liz
Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600
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24 Mar 2011 22:08 |
Glitter Baby, you are a whizz!
Better than the transcribers of his Army pension record who have written his middle name as 'Henry', when it is indeed clearly HERVEY.
Whoopee.
Many thanks to all.
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24 Mar 2011 22:28 |
Mary Louisa Kibble England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: christening: baptism: death: burial: residence: parents: spouse: Hervey Kibble child: Louis Hervey Kibble marriage: record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Louis Hervey Kibble gender: Male baptism/christening date: 09 May 1868 baptism/christening place: St. John the Baptist's Church, Lancashire, Hulme (near Manchester) father's name: Hervey Kibble mother's name: Mary Louisa Kibble indexing project (batch) number: I01909-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 2113135
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24 Mar 2011 22:48 |
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Archilbald Hervey Kibble Name: Archilbald Hervey Kibble Birth Date: 12 Jan 1894 Death Registration Month/Year: 1969 Registration district: Liverpool North Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10d Page: 979
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24 Mar 2011 22:50 |
Thank you to one and all. This has been a fascinating journey.
Now, can anyone find him please on the 1911?
He is probably calling himself ARCHIBALD HERVEY KIBBLE, without the 'Alvaro'.
This will be the last piece of the jigsaw.
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GlitterBaby
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24 Mar 2011 22:55 |
Tried everything I can think of for searching the 1911 census but not found him
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24 Mar 2011 23:19 |
Thanks again.
But he must be in the UK because he did not sign up for WWI until 1914.
He is not living with his birth mother, Jessie M Kibble, and her Portuguese lover.
He is not living with his lonesome father.
He was born in 1894, so we are looking for a seventeen year old lad. Most likely places would be Manchester or Liverpool.
Please can sks keep looking for me?
I may not get back to this tonight, but will be on again tomorrow.
Thank you again.
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25 Mar 2011 14:09 |
I can't even find May G Mouat on any census records ,she was born 28/9/1888 Toxteth Park middle name Gifford and died 1970.
Archibald worked as chemist assistant for Herbert Taylor St Martins Lane Liscard Cheshire before he joined the army,even tried to find him in 1911 no luck as i don't know what age Herbert would have been.
Its sooooooo annoying.
Maryb
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25 Mar 2011 21:44 |
Hello again, everybody.
I know that sks out there will be so thrilled when they have cracked this case for me!
Thank you Mary for your input. It makes it all the more frustrating that neither him nor her are to be found - BUT I KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.
I'm standing by . . .
Thank you in advance.
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25 Mar 2011 22:05 |
You kind and clever lot out there have never let me down yet - in fact, I am forever grateful to many of you for helping me out when I was grazing my knees on a very steep learning curve.
Now then - we can't let this one get away either. I know that both individuals have got 'odd' surnames which have probably baffled the 1911 transcribers, but they're both there somewhere.
I'll be on here until about midnight.
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25 Mar 2011 23:06 |
I've just spent another head scratching half hour trying to find either of these elusive people on the 1911.
I'm not very good on the 1911 unless they're VERY straightforward, so I'm relying on GR now, please!
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25 Mar 2011 23:22 |
1901 I think this might be May
Name: Mary Mouat Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Joan Mouat Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Toxteth Park Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 288 Household Members: Name Age Joan Mouat 35 Isabella Mouat 16 Mary Mouat 12 Robina Mouat 5 Margaret Spencer 49 Mary E Spencer 13
1891? Name: Mary Monan Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Joan Monan Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Philemon Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Toxteth Park Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joan Monan 35 Isabella Monan 6 Mary Monan 2 Hughes 48 Jones 44 Joan is listed as married
Will do a name correction for 1891 as it is Mouat on image
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25 Mar 2011 23:31 |
1911 ? MONAT, Joan Head Married 30 years F 55 1856 Unst Shetland Resident VIEW MONAT, Isabella Daughter Single F 25 1886 Manageress Confectioners Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW MONAT, May Daughter Single F 22 1889 Assistant Confectioners Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW MONAT, Robina Daughter Single F 16 1895 Apprentice Drapers Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22254 Reference: RG14PN22254 RG78PN1316 RD454 SD3 ED3 SN58 Registration District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park Central Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Toxteth Park Address: 187 North - Hill St Liverpool S
Will do a name correction as it is Mouat on image
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25 Mar 2011 23:32 |
If GBs Joan is correct as it looks to be
Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%) -- Mouat Joan S 61 Toxteth P. 8b 248
might have clue on death cert, informant?
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