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Hi can any one help me with this

John Davis first turns up on 1861 Census living with Mother Rose Ann Davis widow born Falsegrave Scarborough age 30 . William Davis son born Scarborough age 2 .John Davis age 10 born Ireland .

1871/81/91 /1901 he states Dublin as place of birth and dobs vary from 1847 to 1850.all in Scarborough

1911 census he is born Templemore Dublin age 63 .

He died in Scarborough 1911 age 64

Rose Ann marries William Brackenbury 1865 Scarborough and dies 1870 Scarborough .

John Davis marries Diana Thorpe 1872 Scarborough .

I sent for this mrg cert and Wlm Brackenbury is listed as Johns father .and he gives his age as 23 .

I know Wlm Brackenbury can not be his father as he was living in Norfolk at the time of Johns birth .

Templemore Dublin was a British Army Garrison..

I have tried the LSD site and looked for Marriages for a Davis and a Rose Ann in Scarborough .

Has any one any suggestions as to what I can do next to find out abt Johns birth

Thankyou for taking the time to read this
Lynda

Was William Brackenbury Johns stepfather?

I would assume that’s why he is on the marriage certificate...he would have been young when his mom remarried and probably referred to him as his father

Yes Wlm Brackenbury was his stepfather Rose ann mrd him in 1865 .

As I mentioned above John seems to be being looked after by his stepfather


1871 England Census
about John Davis
Name: John Davis
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
William Brackenbury 30
Sarah Brackenbury 31
John Davis 19
George Wm Davis 12
William Pennock 3
Margaret Ann Pennock 2

Yes that is John , his stepfather Wlm Brackenbury remarried after Rose Anns death and John lived with him until he mrd Diana Thorpe in 1872 .

I am at a loss to find out who his father was.

I did find a death for a John Davis 1860 Scarborough and thought this could be his father .

Thankyou for looking .

Lynda

Have you bought the birth cert for William? This might identify the father



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Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
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DAVIS William Scarbro 9d 278

No but will do , I just hope they have the same father ,
Thank you

I dont suppose you have Rose Anns maiden name?

perhaps rose ann married in Ireland and came to england just prior to the birth of william

I wonder if this is Rose?


1841 England Census
about Rose Ann Farrar
Name: Rose Ann Farrar
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Scarborough
Hundred: Scarborough Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rose Ann Farrar 8
William Cockerill 27
Elanor Cockerill 19

No , ,but I did a search of Rose Anns born in Scarborough circa 1830 and found a Rose Ann Fate / Tate born Scarborough 1828 .

I was going to send for her mrg cert to Wlm Brackenbury ,but That wont give me her maiden name.

I tried military births on Anscetry [ for John ] but no luck .

Iam going to order Wlm Davis birth cert later today

Thank Ginny , if John was born in 1847 Rose Farrer would have only been 14 when he was born . ,it's such a puzzle .

Thankyou for helping

They did round down ages by up to 5 years on the 1841 census, so Rose could have been old enough

John was 10 on the 1861 census making his birth about 1751?

Now this might be very interesting?



Births Mar 1849 (>99%)
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FARRAR John Grieves Scarbro 24 557



I cant see this boy in the 1851???

Yes Maddie thats what I thought , but I have.nt got a clue how to look for the mrg without a definate sur name for Rose Ann

Oh that is interesting , I wonder if she was an unmarried mother and mrd
Davis after John was born .

Thankyou Ginny

I Cant find a Rose Ann in 1851 , I thought maybe she was in Ireland in an army garrison .

Thankyou for looking on findmypast

Lynda

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Maybe Rose got pregnant had the baby and was shuffled off to Ireland out of the way?

Might be worth getting that birth certificate

The one forJohn Farrer , yes maybe I could try that , Im ordering the brothers today , but dont hold much hope.
I have a feeling they had different fathers and thats a good theory re her being sent to Ireland .