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Elizabeth Fifield b 1854

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Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 06:41

Could someone please find a birth or baptism notice for Elizabeth Fifield born 1854 in England. Her father's name was James on her marriage cert. Surrey, Lambeth.

I would also like to find her death notice, if possible. Her married name was Thomson.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 06:45

Do you have her on a census after she married?

What about the witnesses? Any clues there?

Rose

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 06:46

This is the only person in the 1861 census who matches those specs:

Name: Elizabeth Fifield
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Fifield
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Fifield
Gender: Female
Where born: Micheldever, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Church Oakley
County/Island: Hampshire

James Fifield 33
Mary Ann Fifield 33
Harriett Fifield 12
Mary Ann Fifield 10
Elizabeth Fifield 6
Henry James Fifield 4
Leah Nora Fifield 2
Emily Charlotte Fifield 2 MO


The instructions do say to give *all* the info you have. Whom did she marry, and when? Finding her in a later census would provide essential details like place of birth, for finding her in earlier censuses / finding a birth record.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 06:46

For reference, she married William Hendrie Thomson.

Rose

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 06:47

There is no marriage of a Thomson to an Elizabeth Fifield in the GRO index, barring mistranscription by FreeBMD.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 06:52

We were both doing the DIY job and I blew it somehow!

Marriages Dec 1872
Fifield Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 538
THOMSON William Hendrie Lambeth 1d 538


Could this be her in 1891?

Name: Elizabeth Thomson
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Where born: Warminster, Hampshire, England - it says *Winchester*

Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London

Elizabeth Thomson 38 - widow, laundress
James Belantine Thomson 9 - born Chelsea, London

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 06:55

She married William Hendrie Thomson in 1872 in Surrey. The only census record I have for her is an American 1880 census where their daughter Nellie Grace was born in 1875. William was a witness at Nellie's marriage in1904 in Wandsworth, Surrey.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 06:57

Births Jun 1848
Thomson William Hendrie St Giles &c 1 55

No death before 1891 ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 06:59

Well, telling us she was IN THE UNITED STATES from 1880 would have been really useful, and spared me spending the time since reading your post searching in the ENGLISH censuses.

My last bit of advice will be to put this handy piece of info in your subject line, since what you are looking for is evidently US records.

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:01

JaneyCanuck
In the 1861 census she was born in Micheldever. William Hendrie Thomson was still alive in Jersey according to the 1911 census. So not sure about her in 1891.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:02

Births are easily found here.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

This one matches the Elizabeth Fifield I posted in 1861, and also the one I posted in 1891. Perhaps she returned to England ... perhaps you know ...

Births Jun 1854
FIFIELD Elizabeth Winchester 2c 80

The only other births for that name around then are Elizabeth Mary 1852 in Kingston reg dist and Elizabeth Sarah 1857 in Elham reg dist.

I'd say the one I've posted is her.

You also have her father's occupation from her marriage certificate, most probably.

The James Fifield in 1861 I posted was a Railway Station Agent, born in the same place as that Elizabeth, as was her mother.

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:06

Sorry , she returned from USA in 1894.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:07

So you knew where Elizabeth was in 1861, or at least have decided that is your Elizabeth?

Anything else you would care to share??

Come on, we hang around to be helpful and have some fun, but not having the facts and spending time finding things that aren't lost, that isn't fun.

You know all sorts of things you aren't saying ...

Astra

Astra Report 6 Apr 2011 07:10

Elizabeth Fifield
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: William Hendrie Thomson>>>>>>Clerk
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1872
Parish: St Andrew, Coin Street
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Fifield >>>>>Station Master
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Thomson>>>>>>Clerk

Witnesses: James Fifield and Edward Thurgood

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:12

Everthing I have about Elizabeth, doesn't show a second name. So I am sure what you have posted is the right one.
Many thanks.
I have a slow computer just to make it trickier.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:13


1901 ... ?

Name: Elizabeth Musgrove
[Elizabeth Thomson]
-- user-added note -- contains no more info; user can be contacted through Ancestry
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Frank Musgrove
> Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea

Frank Musgrove 41
Elizabeth Musgrove 47
Elizabeth Thomas 21 - stepdaughter of Frank - it says THOMSON - born Chelsea


Marriages Sep 1906
DEAL Daisy W. Ham 4a 63
MUSGROVE Frank W. Ham 4a 63
? THOMPSON Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 63
TRUEMAN Henry W. Ham 4a 63

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:13

Could you maybe just give us the names of all her children and their birth dates and places to the best of your knowledge ........................

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:17

And if you have William Hendrie Thomson in the 1911, can't you tell us what it says about him??????? Age, place of birth ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:20

Right ...


1911

THOMSON WILLIAM HENDRIC 1848 63 Jersey Jersey

No one else named Thomson living with him, but I don't subscribe to see full details.

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:21

I have her marriage record. I knew her father was James, and that she went to the USA, where her daughter Nellie was born and apart from returning in1894, I didn't really know anymore until tonight.