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Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 21:47

I've tried to find the spouse of John Hancox, marriage in Shipston-on-Stour Jan-Mar 1882. Usually clicking on the page number brings up the spouse/choice of spouses. But this time it produces no result, either in FreeBMD or Ancestry. The volume is 6d, page number is 689. Any ideas, anyone?

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 24 Apr 2011 21:57

Wife's first name?

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 21:59

Try looking at the full list of marriages for the qtr/district.

Look for page numbers which could be mistranscribed as 689....and employ a process of elimination........

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:01

'Shipston' is in italics.....so obviously a 'suspect' district

Where was John born?

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2011 22:05

I wonder if this might be the missing one? Trouble is it does seem to be 669 on the image and John's is 689. Shipston is also in italics.

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
YORK Mary Shipston 6d 669

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:07

I'm afraid I don't know, maybe Helen? This one's a real headache & needs more investigation.

Births Mar 1862
HANCOX John Shipston 6d 584
He's in 1871 census age 9 (father James), 1881 age 19, then
1891 Census no obvious listing, just this one which has a fatal error with his age
1891 England Census about John Hancox
Name: John Hancox
Age: 25 (can't be correct)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Address looks like 2 Clovelly Place Kings Norton
Civil parish: Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Balsall Heath
County/Island: Worcestershire
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hancox 25 (age is illegible)Head Widower Nobleman Groom Born Tysoe
Emily Hancox 27 Daur Single Bottle washer mineral water works Born Newbold
Kate A Hancox 14 Daur Confectioner (factory girl) Born B'ham
Arthur J Hancox 16 Son Warehouseman Grocers Born B'ham

1901 England Census about John Hancox
Name: John Hancox
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Helen Hancox
Gender: Male
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Address 28 Cecil Road, Liscard, Wallasey
Civil parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Cheshire
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hancox 38 Clerk of Works Born Tysoe
Helen Hancox 36 Born Tysoe
Ethel Hancox 4 Born Liscard
Florrie Hancox 1 Born Liscard

1911 none of them can be found in census

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:08

Checking INFO on freebmd.....always worth doing!.........the expected page range for the district is 671 to 678

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:09

How did you get back to him?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Apr 2011 22:09

Looks like them 1911:

HANCOX, John Head Married M 51 1860 Waggoner On Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Mary Jane Wife Married
26 years F 52 1859 Radway Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Thomas Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, John Edwin Son Single M 17 1894 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Walter Charles Son Single M 15 1896 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Ernest Wilfred Son M 12 1899 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Margaret Selina Daughter F 10 1901 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Frances Hewitt Son M 7 1904 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18868 Reference:
RG14PN18868 RG78PN1128 RD396 SD3 ED3 SN102

Registration District:
Shipston on Stour Sub District:
Halford Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Tysoe

Address:
Lower Tysoe Kineton Warwick County:
Warwickshire

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:10

Flick,

RE: 'Shipston' is in italics.....so obviously a 'suspect' district

Where was John born?

Shipston would be correct , he was born in Tysoe within the Shipston registration area

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:13

No marriage in the qtr/district for a HELEN

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:15

1891 England Census
about John Hancey
Name: John Hancey
[John Hancox]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Hancey
Gender: Male
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Tysoe
Ecclesiastical parish: The Assumption of the Virgin
Town: Tysoe
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Shipston On Stour
Sub-registration district: Halford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2486
Folio: 16
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hancey 31
Mary J Hancey 32
Mary E Hancey 6
Jarvis W Hancey 4
Cora J Hancey 1
Geoffrey Shepherd 8 <<<<<< Stepson

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:16

brummiejan

You could be right there, maybe I was wrong about the John Hancox in Wallasey, the trouble is there are so many Hancoxes in Tysoe and so many with the same forename. Not being able to trace his wife's name was the stumbling-block but if ***alviegal*** is right about Mary York that would make sense.

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:16

You're missing the point............read the info about page numbers

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:17

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Graves Elizabeth Hannah Shipston 6d 1081
>>>>>>>>>Hancox John Shipston 6d 1081
>>>>>>>>>>Shepherd Mary Jane Shipston 6d 1081
Wimbush William Butcher Shipston 6d 1081

Shepherd matches stepsons surname in 1891. 1911 census says married 26 yrs = c1885

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:19

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hancox Jarvis William Shipston 6d 631

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:23

Flick,

I see what you mean, thank you.

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:26

Am I invisible?

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2011 22:31

This is your John in 1881.

HANCOX, James Head Married M 50 1831 Stone Mason
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Jane Wife Married F 49 1832
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Emma Daughter Single F 25 1856 (Masons Dau)
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, John Son Single M 19 1862 Stone Mason
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Fred Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, George Grand Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3113 Folio:
5 Page:
2

Registration District:
Shipston on Stour Sub District:
Halford Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Tysoe Municipal Borough:
Address:
9, Church Tysoe, Tysoe County:
Warwickshire


and the John you have found in 1891 is this one.


1881

HANCOX, John Head Married M 45 1836 General Laborer
Tysol
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Louisa Wife Married F 39 1842
Newbald
Worcestershire VIEW
HANCOX, Emily Daughter Single F 17 1864 Printer Apprentice
Newbald
Worcestershire VIEW
HANCOX, Arthur Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Edg?
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Kate Daughter Single F 4 1877
Edg?
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2949 Folio:
108 Page:
37

Registration District:
Kings Norton Sub District:
Kings Norton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kings Norton Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Meredith Sq, Kings Norton County:
Worcestershire

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:35

Chrisa, Thank you for your information, I wasn't meaning to ignore you if that's what you were thinking. I need to check all these facts as there is more than one John Hancox.