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I have looked for along time but can never find any of them on the census

Robert John Parry abt 1880-1962-4 married Catherine Mary abt 1880-1 dont know if mary is her sir name or if it was Griffiths?. as i found a gwenllian birth been reg by a griffiths.

Children May,Nan,Katie,Blodwyn,Gladys,Gwenllian birth 11.3.1912 death 23.12.2003 and robert and Catherine lost 1 boy may of been called Matthew aged around 2.

I belive the family are from the Rhondda,Ystradyfodwyg area.

sorry its alot of maybe's but thats what i have to work with. I have been trying for a while but thought maybe some of you folks could give it ago for me please. :D

Robert John's birth??
Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
PARRY Robert John Bangor 11b 447

The district Bangor spans the boundaries of the counties of Anglesey, Caernarvonshire and Gwynedd

Thanks Lynne will add that info to my notes. :-)

You would have to buy the birth certificate to make sure it is your Robert John?

Do you have any information on the birth years for the children?

I cannot find a marriage for Robert John to Catherine???

If you can't find them in the census, how do you know that Robert John married Catherine Mary?

Where have you found that information?

no i only have Gwenllian Parry who was my grandma born 11.3.1912 my dad says he belives Gwen was the youngest.

no the only marriage i could find was the one you have but like i said not to sure about Catherines details.

I think that this is them in 1911 census -

PARRY, Robert J Head M 36 (36 MAR) 1875 Under Ground Haulier Ystrad Rhondda VIEW
PARRY, Mary A Wife Married
12 years F 33 1878 Ystrad Rhondda VIEW
PARRY, Olive May Daughter F 9 1902 Ystrad Rhondda VIEW
PARRY, Susanah Daughter F 7 1904 Ystrad Rhondda VIEW
PARRY, Cathrine Mary Daughter F 5 1906 Bargoed Glam VIEW
PARRY, Gladys Lilian Daughter F 3 1908 Gilfach Bargoed VIEW
PARRY, Alice Blodwin Daughter F 1 1910 Bargoed VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32415 Reference:
RG14PN32415 RG78PN1854 RD590 SD1 ED14 SN213

Registration District:
Merthyr Tydfil Sub District:
Gelligaer Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Gelligaer

Address:
11 Henry St Bargoed County:
Glamorganshire

1901 Wales Census
Name: Robert Parry
Age in 1901: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Parry
Gender: Male
Where born: Nk, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Ystradyfodwg St John
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 100 Gelly Rd

Occupation: Coal Hewer Below Ground

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
Piece: 5015
Folio: 33
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Parry 26
Mary Parry 23 - Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan

My dad wrote to me he said he belived my greatgrand mother was called Catherine Mary just having a look at the letter now he thinks she died about 1953 or 4 in the district of Ystradyfodwyg-Glamorgan South Wales.

1911 census original states that 5 children born, all living

Other possible births?

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Parry Elsie G Griffiths Merthyr T. 11a 1637


Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Parry Gwenllian Griffiths Merthyr T. 11a 1477

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Parry Iris L Griffiths Merthyr T. 11a 1496

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Parry Douglas J Griffiths Merthyr T. 11a 1793

Yes i saw that one on Ancestry Lynne but some of the names dont match but then i thought maybe my dad got it wrong with some names ?.

I know Katie is right as Gwen's seconded husband mentions her a few times in his diarys. I wonder if Nan was Susanah ?

It looks as though they were using their middle names?? Catherine would be Kate?

The birth place of Robert John matches your information.

lol yes it would just be like my lot to go around using middle names. :D

aaarrhhh yes just remebered my dad said Gwenllian was born in Bargoed which is what you have found there on Henry Street well done Lynne and Thank You.

Do you have your grandmother's birth certificate? This would confirm her mother's name.

With regards to the names, I asked my mother for information and her brother Jack turned out to be John Robert so names used were not always accurate.

Susannah could be Nan? I know that Nan is a common one for Annie.

So 1901 is not a goer? I know the age is out, but if he's not sure where he's born, he might not know his exact age.

Ozi

Yes i have need to send off for some certs now. i have Gwen's wedding cert to her first husband which comfirms her dads name. so will have to send for the best matches for her birth.

I would say that your 1901 is a goer, Ozi. Birth details, place of birth and occupation all seem to match the 1911 census that I found and if they had 5 children then the first one wasn't born until after the 1901 census which means they would not have had any children at that time.