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CHARLES LLOYD SEVERN BORN ABT 1835

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Margaret

Margaret Report 25 May 2011 11:32

Could someone with worldwide access please look up this man for me.

He married EDITH KATHERINE FOWLER 9 March 1876 at Holy Trinity Brompton Rd London and they had 2 children by the 1881 census -JULIET HELEN SEVERN 1877 and EDITH BERYL SEVERN 1880.
In the 1881 census his place of birth is stated abroad Brit subject.

I think he may be from USA as a hint comes up on Ancestry same name but as I don't have access I can't tell.

He died in UK in Feb 1883 in Kent and has a probate record mentioning his wife.

Can any one also find out anything about the children?

I would be grateful for any help. My line is the Fowler line and his wife was my Grandfathers sister.

Many thanks Margaret

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 11:38

1901
SEVERN, Edith K Head Widow F 46 1855 Living On Own Means
Sheffield
Yorkshire VIEW
SEVERN, Juliet H Daughter Single F 23 1878 Living On Own Means
Waterloo
Lancashire VIEW
SEVERN, Edith B Daughter Single F 21 1880 Living On Own Means
Norwood
Surrey VIEW
UPTON, Mary E E Servant Single F 16 1885 General Serv (Domestic)
Crewe
Cheshire VIEW
ROGERS, Thomas H Servant Single M 16 1885 Garden Boy (Domestic)
Marbury
Cheshire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3364 Folio:
13 Page:
18

Registration District:
Nantwich Sub District:
Wrenbury Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Audlem

Civil Parish:
Audlem Municipal Borough:
Address:
Green Lane, Audlem County:
Cheshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 11:43

possible marraige
ame: SEVERN, Juliet H
Registration District: Help Wimborne
County: Dorset
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume No: Help 5A
Page No: Help 483

Name: THOMAS, Francis H
Registration District: Wimborne
County: Dorset
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Severn
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 483
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GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 May 2011 11:55

Juliet Helen Severn married Francis H Thomas 1920 Mar Q Wimborne Dorset 5a 483 This was where her mother died in 1926

Margaret

Margaret Report 25 May 2011 12:03

Many thanks. Any clues to the other child? I guess as Juliet was 42 when she married there are probably no children.
Margaret

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 May 2011 12:05

1880 US census has this
Felton, Kent , Delaware
Charles L Severn 45 Carpenter
Beneleda wife
Harry 15
Mary 10
Mary J whitaker 37 Dressmaker
Sallie Arthurs 16 servant all b dalaware

BUT this would not seem to tally with the births in England of Edith Beryl and Juliet Helen

Margaret

Margaret Report 25 May 2011 12:10

That must be the one that pops up as a hint.
My Charles was 20 years older than his wife.

Seems vague to just put abroad on the census.

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 12:39

1911
ame: SEVERN, Juliet H
Registration District: Help Wimborne
County: Dorset
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume No: Help 5A
Page No: Help 483

Name: THOMAS, Francis H
Registration District: Wimborne
County: Dorset
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Severn
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 483
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Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 12:39

1911
SEVERN, Edith Katherine Head Widow F 50 1861 Private Means Yorkshire Shiffield VIEW
SEVERN, Edith Beryl Daughter Single F 28 1883 Surrey Norwood VIEW
MORRISON, Percy Archibald Visitor Married M 35 1876 Chartered Accountant Warwick Aston VIEW
MORRISON, Elsie Redman Visitor Married
8 years F 37 1874 Worcester King Norton VIEW
GOSLING, Sarah Servant Single F 15 1896 Domestic Servant Salop Hales VIEW
DAVIES, Stanley Servant Single M 16 1895 Domestic Servant Wales Pontypridd Glamorganshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21825 Reference:
RG14PN21825 RG78PN1300 RD449 SD4 ED2 SN51

Registration District:
Nantwich Sub District:
Wrenbury Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Audlem

Address:
Green Lane Audlem County:
Cheshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 12:45

possibly mother death
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Edith K Severn
Name: Edith K Severn
Birth Date: abt 1856
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1926
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Wimborne
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 203

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 May 2011 12:46

I think the most likely birthplace for Charles would be India -1835 birth abroad and yet he is a british subject -that would fit with possibly his father serving in the East India Company or the Army
Findmypast has India records -you caould try there

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 13:00

had a look can't find anything

Barry

Barry Report 25 May 2011 13:06

There is a tree on Ancestry which records a Charles Severn b 1835 Pennsylvania who's spouse is a Penelope(no surname) b 1840 Delaware
They had 2 children
Henry b 1863 Pennsylvania
Mary b1868 "

Perhaps he is the same Charles and his wife died or was divorced and came to the UK and remarried
His marriage certificate to Edith Katherine would state his marital status

There is a reference to the 1870 US Census but I don't have access

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 13:09

marraige
View Record Edith Katherine Fowler Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 Kensington London
View Record Francis Frederick Hughes Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 Kensington London
View Record Charles Lloyd Severn Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 Kensington London
View Record Mary Ann Whiteman

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 13:13

from family search
Charles L Severn

United States Census, 1870


birth: 1835 —Pennsylvania
residence: Delaware, United States

record title: United States Census, 1870
name: Charles L Severn
estimated birth year: 1835
gender: Male
age in 1870: 35y
color (white, black, mulatto, chinese, indian): White
birthplace: Pennsylvania
home in 1870: Delaware, United States

-1837

Charles L. Severn

United States Census, 1880


birth: 1835 —Delaware, United States
residence: 1880 —Felton, Kent, Delaware
spouse: Beneleda Severn
children: Harry Severn, Mary Severn

record title: United States Census, 1880
name: Charles L. Severn
residence: Felton, Kent, Delaware
birthdate: 1835
birthplace: Delaware, United States
relationship to head: Self
spouse's name: Beneleda Severn
spouse's birthplace: Delaware, United States
father's birthplace: Delaware, United States
mother's birthplace: Delaware, United States
race or color (expanded): White
ethnicity (standardized): American
gender: Male
martial status: Married
age (expanded): 45 years
occupation: Carpenter
nara film number: T9-0117
page: 294
page character: B
entry number: 5449

Margaret

Margaret Report 25 May 2011 13:20

Is Juliet Helen Fowler coming up in the 1911?

I haven't looked at 1911 yet is it free anywhere?
Margaret

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 13:34

have'nt found her

Margaret

Margaret Report 25 May 2011 14:11

Many thanks for all your help. I don't think I will find Edith Beryl perhaps she went abroad.
Margaret

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 May 2011 15:35

seem a bit late in the day
ame: SEVERN, Edith B
Registration District: Help Wakefield
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1930
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Roberts
Volume No: Help 9C
Page No: Help 194

Name: ROBERTS, Terry
Registration District: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1930
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Severn
Volume No: 9C
Page No: 194
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Name: SEVERN, Edith B
Registration District: Help Walsall
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1936
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Small
Volume No: Help 6B
Page No: Help 1735

Name: SMALL, Godfrey J
Registration District: Walsall
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1936
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Severn
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 1735
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GillianMac

GillianMac Report 26 May 2011 14:12

I really dont think the Delaware Charles can be the right one -he would have to be nipping across the "pond " at regular intervals if he was married in England in 1876 and producing 2 children there while still having wife and kids in US in 1880 and 1870!
I rather fancy this family but thus far havent been able to make the certain link
Westminster St Margaret 1851 21 James St
Joseph Severn 57 Artist B London
Elizabeth 47 wife b Ayr Scotland
Walter 20 Ck Privy Council Offices b Rome (British Subject)
Mary Ann 18 b Rome (British subject)
Henry 19 Student at home B Rome (British Subject)
Arthur 8
Eleanor 8 twins born St Margarets Westminster
Marian Severn 53 Aunt b Middlesex
Emily Monteage 17 visitor b Middlesex

1841
Joseph 45 Historical Painter b England
Elizabeth 30 b Scotland
Claudia 12
Mary 11 both born Foreign Parts

This seems to fit the birth abroad of Charles and suggests the wealthy lifestyle he enjoyed (estate £915 when he died -quite a lot at that time)