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Okay Mary i'll add yours to the GRO.lol., Ellen was visiting the Penningtons
in Cheshire, Arthur H owen was listed as lodger, occupation coachman, domestic. piece 2828, folio 16, page 26.

Margee, it makes for total confusion, when I think I've made sense of it someone points something out that confuses things more, I like to think the census folk were hard of hearing, illiterate but kind hearted folk.lol.

Tracey

Just to add to the mix, correspondence has got me thinking somethings not right and I've found it, Thomas married in 1909, his father Arthur is listed as deceased, so could not of married ellen/helen in 1914............lordy, lordy............maybe Arthur and Ellen/Helen never married!!

1911 56 Park Road Hale Cheshire
Helen Owen 42 born Wavertree a WIDOW a line is were it says how many years married 5 children all alive
Ida 1897 Staffs
Desmond 1899 Hale
Edith 1900 Hale
Mary 1903/4/ Hale.

Death??
Arthur harry owen born @ 1844 died Burton on trent Staff ordshire J/A/S 1904

Maryb

Well that explains why the 1914 marriage was for Arthur W.S. instead of Arthur H. A different guy, your Arthur H. had already died. As you say, possible that they never married. I tend to agree with Mary that Thomas Owen Pritchard is yours and that he was given father's surname as second name. But where was the little guy in 1891?

Margee

I think this could be a possible but can't find him in 1891, hence trying to find him at a relatives house. Can only presume he was in transit and missed being polled!

However have got Arthur H Owen md Helen Pritchard 1893 Stoke T 6b 385.

Tracey

Have you found Ellen/Helens mum in 1891,could she have remarried after death of Samuel as she was only 29 when he died.

Maryb.

No Mary I haven't, I haven't even found her as a probable with maiden name Elizabeth Hardacre born Oxton, Cheshire 1842, however given her age and not knowing her circumstance at 29 and widowed re-marriage would be a good prospect regarding stability.

Tracey.

Any sign of Ellen in 1881??

Maryb

Think Ellen maybe Helen then, going to check again, again the census folk and hearing, but as Helen it would be right, back in a mo.

ps work wise guess she could be a domestic servant?

To all those that have been so helpful, thankyou so very much however, i'm going to sign off now, brain is fried its been a long day, the last 6 hours search in total has finished me off, and I have a 4.00am start tomorrow.
I will resume again 2 morrow, I will post any nuggets of gold 1881 - ellen
1891 - thomas if I get lucky,

Again thankyou all for your time and effort.x

Tracey

I have just read Tracey another thread by you on 9th may 2011 about this family.

I think you should have tagged this thread onto it as some info given here you already had,i.e 1911 census Arthur and Ellen's marriage etc.

Maryb