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If that's your Joseph (George Josiah)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Selina Seal Name: Selina Seal
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1875
Registration district: Guisborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 759 (click to see others on page)


Thomas Hastings
Susanah Jane Kirk
James Seal
Selina Seal

now lets see if she emigrated.

Vera

???? now she is changing her name. Ann E and Martha possibly Joseph (Josiah's children) Wonder where young Josiah went to.


1881 England Census
about James Seal Name: James Seal
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Seal Born Soham
Gender: Male
Where born: Soham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Brotton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Day St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Iron Stone Miner

Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Lofthouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Piece: 4838
Folio: 113
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
James Seal 30
Ann Seal 32
Ann E. Seal 11 Born Soham
Martha A. Seal 10
William R. Seal 5
Margaret Seal 4
John H. Seal


Vera

Here is Josiah with maternal grandparents, the Pollards who Chris posted as Selina's parents in a Parish Record


1881 England Census
about Josiah Seal Name: Josiah Seal
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Soham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Soham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address: Mere Side

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Newmarket
Sub-registration district: Soham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Piece: 1680
Folio: 96
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Pollard 75
Mary Pollard 75
Josiah Seal 13


Vera

For info. Seems Ancestry got it right this time.


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Selina Seal Name: Selina Seal
Arrival Date: 22 Apr 1888
Birth Year: abt 1850
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Scythia

Travelling with Jonah (Josiah) 19, Martha 15, William 11, Margaret 6 and James, 4

Vera

Are you ready for this. Do you think Selina (aka Ann) married Joseph's (George Josiah) nephew or have it completely lost the plot.

1861 England Census
about James Seal Name: James Seal
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Soham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Soham
Town: Soham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England


Registration district: Newmarket
Sub-registration district: Soham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 219
Piece: 1036
Folio: 48
Page Number: 35

John Seal 59
Martha Seal 60
George J Seal 14
James Seal 11

Vera

1910 United States Federal Census ?...
about Salma Seal
Name: Salma Seal
[Salina Seal]
Age in 1910: 64
Estimated Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's Name: James Seal
Home in 1910: Iron Mountain Ward 5, Dickinson, Michigan
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of immigration: 1889
[1887]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Seal 66
Salma Seal 64
Dorice Trenberth 10 (2 Grandchildren)
Margaret R Trenberth 1

(image says married 44 years, 6 children born, 4 living, James arrived 1881)

Not found them 1900 as yet...

Chris :)


Baptism
Day: 3
Month: Feb
Year: 1850
Forenames: James William Robert
Surname: Seal
Relationship: son of
Father forenames:
Fathers occupation:
Mother forenames: Margt single woman
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Abode: otp
Place: Soham
County: Cambridgeshire

Vera/Chris
Quick lunchtime dabble again. Thanks again for your help. I know I should be focussing on John Darnell who I still 'believe' is my ggfather but I find the Seal mysteries intriguing.
One source is my sister who is 20 years older than me and has just returned from holiday. She has a box of certificates that I looked at once. At the time the Seal/Darnell issue was not on my radar but I will ask her to look.
The hint on Ancestry was obviously valid but did not have any sources attached.
The possibility of James being a nephew is a distinct possibility. I spotted him listed as gson but could not fit him into the picture.
Imminent birth of daughter's third (complications) means that I have limited time at moment because we are looking after other two most evenings and weekends.
Anyway you are better at this than me and you obviously enjoy a challenge!!

Paul

Paul

Licky you. What I would give for a box full of certs. Have an older brother but only the odd photograph. It's always worth checking out the Ancestry hints as a lot can be totally off.

That record of Chris' re James Seal is intriguing - mother probably one of the Seal sisters. It's easy to go off on a tangent dealing with other members of the family I do it all the time.

Good luck with the coming birth. See you back on the boards in 10 years time! You can throw me the odd query now and again.

Vera

Lol Paul, hope you get your hands on that box of certs. very soon, and find all the answers!!, and a new baby due too, you'll be very busy soon methinks!. Hope all goes ok...

(and, just to add, that Margaret Seal (mother of James born 1850) is in Shadwell, Stepney on the 1851 census, a house servant. leaving James with John and Martha the Grandparents)

Chris :)