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Sarah Jane Long was born in July 1878 in Bradford, married a George Morgan and emigrated to NZ around 1920 with their family.

I am having trouble tracing records for Sarah Jane and her parents and ancestors before. Her father's name was Seth Long and he married a Rose Hannah (I believe formerly Slater). I am trying to trace back on both Sarah Jane's paternal and maternal sides but am unable to locate the marriage of her parents to be sure of the names of her parents, grandparents and beyond.

Would appreciate any help people could provide ahead of a trip north later this summer where I would like to visit their hometowns.

Many thanks
Bill

1891 census for ref

Name: Sarah Jane Long
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Seth Long
Mother's name: Roschama Long
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford

Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 54 Amberley St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3623
Folio: 69
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Seth Long 59 b Otley occ Labourer
Roschama Long 50 (image Rosehannah) b Burnley
Minnie Stephens 24 b Bradford married daughter occ Nurse
Eliza Long 22 b Bradford occ Worsted Reeler
Annie Long 17 b Bradford occ Worsted Spinner
Cicely Long 15 b Bradford occ Worsted Winder
Sarah Jane Long 12 Scholar
Rosehannah Stephens 3/12 granddaughter
Beny D Slater 26 b Burnley Boarder occ Stockinette (looks like) Weaver

Perhaps Beny is related to Rosehannah?

This looks like the parent's marriage:-

Name: LONG, Seth
Registration District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 9B
Page No: 102

On the same page is Rose Hannah Hindle. Perhaps Rose had been previously married?

Kath. x

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Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
xxxx Hindle Rose Hannah Bradford, Y. 9b 102
xxxx Long Seth Bradford, Y. 9b 102
Reynolds Edward Bradford Y 9b 102
Styan Mary Ann Bradford Y 9b 102

??

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
Hindle Rose Hannah Haslingden 21 380

I'm wondering if Seth was married before....possible 1871 census?

Name: Minie Long
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Seth Long
Mother's name: Rosina Long
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bowling
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 4444
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Seth Long 39 b Otley occ Labourer
Rosina Long 30 b Burnley occ Stuff Weaver
Minie Long 4
Eliza Long 2
Betsy Long 2 Months

Huge amount of information thank you. I am very perplexed about the two potential surnames for Sarah Jane's mother i.e. Hindle or Slater.

The birth certificate definitely says (formerly Slater) but it would appear all the records show Rose Hannah Hindle marrying Seth Long (also recorded on Census as Rosina and Roschama but probably just what the recorder heard).

Then there is the birth of Rose Hannah Hindle in Haslington in 1840 which appears correct and suggests Rose Hannah was not married before and I can find no record of Seth Long marrying anyone else.

The inclusion of Beny D Slater with the family on that 1891 Census adds some credit to the "formerly Slater" on the Sarah Jane birth certificate.

Most confused. Could not find any record of Rose Hannah Slater birth so perhaps this is a mistake on records.

To trace Seth Long and Rose Hannah Hindle back in time, are there sites that contain their BDM and parents same prior to 1837?

Help much appreciated

Possible death of Seth Long

Name: LONG, Seth
Registration District:  Bradford
County:  Yorkshire
Year of Registration:  1904
Quarter of Registration:  Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:  73
Volume No:  9B
Page No:  28

The IGI has pre-1837 baptisms etc.

It's FREE on.....................

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Seth's baptism is there.........I'll let you have the pleasure of finding it........

No point in depriving you of that..................

Possibly 1881 for Seth

SCHOFIELD, Adam Head Married M 51 1830 Cotton Carder Unemployed Rochdale Lancashire
SCHOFIELD, Mary Wife Married F 48 1833 Woollen Weaver Unemployed Birtle Lancashire
SCHOFIELD, Mary Alice Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Heap Lancashire
LONG, Seth Boarder Married M 48 1833 Laborer In Iron Works
Ottley Yorkshire
WILKINSON, Hiram Boarder Married M 33 1848 Laborer In Iron WorksBarnsleyYorkshire
RG number:RG11 Piece:3853 Folio:95 Page:47     
 
Registration District:Bury
Sub District:Birtle
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
 
Civil Parish:Heap
Municipal Borough:
Address:
11, Wood Cottages, Heap
County:Lancashire

The marriage wasn't until December 1871, after the 1871 census, on which they are living together

That usually indicates that one of them was tied up to another spouse.............

1861

Name: Rose H Hindle
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Hindle
Mother's name: Jane Hindle
Gender: Female
Where born: Haslingden, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 3067
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
John Hindle 46
Jane Hindle 42
Priscilla Hindle 22
Rose H Hindle 21
Jane Hindle 14
James Hindle 13
Betty Hindle 11
George Hindle 9
Rebecca Hindle 6

1841

Name: Seth Long
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1296
Book: 4
Folio: 40
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
James Long 35
Hannah Long 35
Samuel Long 15
Banett Long 12
Seth Long 10
James Long 3

ALL born in Yorkshire

just mentioning that the name confusion is because people' s names weren' t set in stone

Rose
Rosina
Rose Ann
Roseann
Rosanna
Rose Hannah

could all be the same person at different times :-)

and the 1891 census doesn' t really say 'Roschama' that is just how the transcriber at Ancestry saw it even though it fairly plainly says 'Rosehannah'

Name: Roschama Long
[Rose Hannah Long] >>> 'alternate info' added by an Ancestry user in 2010
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Seth Long


also it says 'Benj' not 'Beny' Slater

Seth's father & some siblings in 1861

Name: Barret Long
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Long
Gender: Male
Where born: Otley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Otley
Town: Burley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Otley
Sub-registration district: Otley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Piece: 3213
Folio: 37
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
James Long 62 born YEADON
Barret Long 30
James Long 20
William Long 18

Ah.....I see someone has decided not to let you have the pleasure of finding the IGI info yourself.................

this is Benj Slater in 1871


Name: Benjamin Slater
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Burley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Burley
Ecclesiastical parish: Burley
Town: Burley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wharfedale
Sub-registration district: Otley

Household Members:
Name Age
John Slater 64
Martha Slater 60
Benjamin Slater 6
Pheobe Slater 28
Anne J Slater 8


....... I had thought maybe he was Rose Hannah's son from before her marriage but it doesn' t seem so .........

.........his mother was Phoebe and this is the family in 1881

Name: Benjamin Slater
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: Lemuel Dronsfield
Mother's name: Phebe Dronsfield
Gender: Male
Where born: Burley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Burley in Wharfdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Main St South Side

Occupation: Worsted Wool Comber

Registration district: Wharfedale
Sub-registration district: Otley

Household Members:
Name Age
Lemuel Dronsfield 36
Phebe Dronsfield 38
Virginia D. Dronsfield 8
Tom Dronsfield 6
James Dronsfield 4
Henry Dronsfield
Annie Jane Slater 18
Benjamin Slater 16


I don't see a connection with Rose Hannah yet .........

The census seems to have Seth as son of James and Hannah Long. Christening for birth around same time in 1831 on family search shows a Seth as son of a James Long and Elizabeth (not Hannah). Conflicting mother's christian name and can't find another record to the contrary.

Rose Hannah Long and connection with Slater still no record. This branch of the family appears to be a can of confusing worms.

Hannah could well have been a second wife of James Long

the long space between the two youngest children ..... that could be when first wife died and he remarried

you' re welcome ?