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Mary McBlain born 1815 Help please.
I have found out that Mary was born in Ireland (perhaps County Down) Her parent's were John McBlain and Jane McRoberts. I would like to find out anything about them in Ireland. Have tried but have been unable to find them I would be pleased to have any help or advice..
Mary left Ireland and married David Muir in Rutherglen, Scotland in 1835 and they had a family. She remarried John Robertson in 1850, he was a widower.

well I've searched for all these people under all names - no joy I'm sorry

can I suggest you edit your heading to include the word Ireland

Just for reference:
1851 Scotland Census
Mary Robertson
Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: John Robertson
Gender: Female Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 573 Civil parish: Paisley Middle Church
County: Renfrewshire Address: 10 School Wynd
ED: 4 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 49 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1851_124

John Robertson 37 Ireland
Mary Robertson 37
Margaret Robertson 15
Christopher Robertson 13
John Robertson 5
Margaret Robertson 26 sister
Margaret Hughe 23
Elizabeth Brown 24
Elizabeth Hugh 20
Margaret Finegall 25

Source Citation: Parish: Paisley Middle Church; ED: 4; Page: 12; Line: 12; Roll: 904; Year: 1851.

Moira....
Have checked the Co Down and the McRoberts/McBlain/Blaine name is everywhere (They came over with the Plantation of Ulster)...however I cannot find a connection so far between a John Mc Blain and Jane Mc Roberts (Variations of both surnames included...also excluded the Mc..)
Interesting that none of the children born to Mary and David were called after her parents..?
Have you checked to see if John and Jane were over in Scotland at any time...I cannot find them...

EDIT.....What happened to Mary and Davids children after she married John Robertson...????

Hello Moira,

It may be worthwhile putting the names into the Search Tree box above (in the dark green bar) as several members seem to have Mary in their tree. You can contact the tree owners for further info. Regards. Cx

Hi All, Thankyou very much for the help and advice.
I have Mary Robertson( nee McBlain) death certificate 4.7.1894 confirming that her parent's were John McBlain and Jane McRoberts It gaveher parent's occupation would it show this if they had not come to Scotland from Ireland? I have Marys certificates for both marriages to David Muir 15.2.1835 on12th Feb.1850 to John Robertson where this time her name appears to have been spelt McBlaine, only once has this happened. The 1851 census shows Ireland as her birthplace, I checked the 1881 census it also shows Ireland as her birth place.
1881 census shows Mary McB. Robertson 65 with Crawford 30, Martha23 and Jane 15. 1851 shows John Robertson 39 Mary 35 Jean 17 Robert 13 John 10 Andrew 8 Isabella 2 Crawford 8minths Agnes Muir step daughter 7 John Muir 4 stepson.

To continue I have lots of certificates from SP to confirm everything. I was informed by someone else that Mary was shown as being born in County Down, Ireland about 1818 in the 1861 census. She died age 79 so 1815 is more in line for her birth. I have tried to access the 1861 census to confirm birth place but there are too many choices.
I have also contacted other tree owners.
It would be great If I could find out something about Mary's birthplace.

Many thanks Moira

Here is the 1861 (found by searching for Crawford):

1861 Scotland Census
about Mary Robertson
Name: Mary Robertson
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John Robertson
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland, Down
Registration Number: 627
Registration district: Cambuslang
Civil parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Silverbankson Glasgow & Handn Rd
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 147
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1861_93
Household Members: Name Age
John Robertson 49
Mary Robertson 43
John Robertson 19
Agnes Muir 18
Andrew Robertson 17
John Muir 14
Isabella Robertson 12
Crawford Robertson 10
Mary Robertson 9
Alexander Robertson 8
Ann Robertson 6
Martha Robertson 3

Moira....There are still some of David Muir and Mary's children missing from 1851 Census...
MJanet b Rutherglen 1836
Mary b 1838 (Old Monkland)
David..b 1840...

Name: David Muir
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Sep 1840
Baptism/Christening Place: , OLD MONKLAND, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1840
Father's Name: David Muir

Mother's Name: Mary Mcblane
Mother's Birthplace:
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Have you checked the 1841 census to see if David and Mary were still in that area...
If the above children havent died then they may be with either the Muir/McBlain relatives.

Re occupation of Mary's parents...The cert would show it whether or not they were in Scotland...What was the occup ?
Not "weaver" please..!!!

Moira... Is this David and Mary 1841....???

1841 Census



Piece: SCT1841/652 Place: Old Monkland -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Old Monkland Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Gartsherrie
Folio: 37 Page: 7
Address: Merryston Square



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MUIR David M 25 Coal Miner Lanarkshire
MUIR Marrey F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
MUIR Jean F 5 Lanarkshire
MUIR David F 8m Lanarkshire
MUIR Thomas - Unknown Coal Miner Lanarkshire
MCBLUNE John - Unknown Labourer Lanarkshire

Terrific results I appreciate all the information.The 1861 census confirms that Mary definately came from County Down.
Thanks for the information re all the children. Iwill need to sit down and compare notes with what I have.
The 1841 census will be correct and I see that both fathers lived with the family. I have noted the spelling McBlune, McBlane.
On the death cerificate for Mary, John McBlain is down as having been a pattern weaver.

Many thanks Moira

Your more than welcome Moira...
Cant see any McBlain's(or variations ) for the area's 1841/51 but it may need more playing around with the spelling...
Who were the witness for David and Mary's Wedding...?
Well Iis over the water we'll need to be going....
Maura...if shes around may be able to help ...she's grand so she is for finding folk in the North

Moira...Someone has submitted data to the LDS re David and Mary...it demonstrates how careful people need to be when using sub.data as Primary Source...(You use PS)

MARY McBLAIN Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1814 Of, Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland



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Marriages:
Spouse: DAVID MUIR Family
Marriage: FEB 1835 Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland

Another has her dob abt.1816 New Dundyvan Lanark..!!

That being said there were McBlain's around Lanark from abt 1832 according to some Births..mmmm

Sorry folks, nothing coming up for John & Jane,

Griffiths Valuation of Ireland

Surname First Name Townland Parish County
Following are the exact matches:
Blain James Ballywalter Ballywalter Down
Blain John Cahard Kilmore Down
Blain Robert Corbet Magherally Down
Blain James Ballysallagh Dromore Down
Blain James Village of Ballywalter Ballywalter Down
These are matches starting with the search string:
Blaine William Drumnagally Seapatrick Down
Rest of the matches:
Mc Blain Robert Ballymoney Newtownards Down
Mc Blain George Henry Street,Newtownards Newtownards Down
Mc Blain Robert Street,(Newry) Newry Down
Mc Blain Joseph Church View,Holywood Holywood Down
Mc Blain Robert Margaret Street,Newry Newry Down

Thanks Maura....I couldn't find anything but hoped you may have had more success....
Am down in the Co Kerry chasing the O'Shea's...!!

Maura and Eringobragh A thousand thanks for all your help.
I had a go in researching in County Down but am not familar with these searches. I could not find anything either. At least I know she did come from Ireland and County Down and I have found out some more about the families.

Much appreciated. Moira

Have just located a death certificate on SP for Jane McBlain widow of John McBlain cotton weaver. She died 28.3.1872 (age 79) in Bridgeton in Glasgow.Parents Robert McRoberts and Jane Reid.
Can find no other records of Jane McRoberts (McBlain) Found on SP a death certificate for John McBlain died 29.12.1860 age 79 or 72. States married but wifes name not shown. Parents William McBlain and Mary McBlain ne McAllister. He died in Silverbanks, Cambuslang.
They seem to be Mary McBlain's parents. So as Mary was shown to be born in Ireland her parents must have come over to Scotland also.
Regards Moira

Could this be Jane McBlain in 1871? It might be worth buying some credits on scotlandspeople to view the image:

1871 Scotland Census
about Jane McKlain
Name: Jane McKlain
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relationship: Mother-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Franklin
ED: 98
Household schedule number: 130
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_129
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Moore 40
Jane Moore 40 - born Lanarkshire, Rutherglen
Henry Moore 6
James Moore 2
Jane McKlain 76

Baptism of Henry in the 1871:

HENRY MOORE Pedigree
Birth: 03 JUN 1864 Bridgeton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Father: ROBERT MOORE Family
Mother: JANE MCBLANE