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This is a very long shot. I am trying to find out any information about a George Francis Martin Or
Francis George Martin born in Limerick Ireland he may or may not have had a brother, not sure date of his birth but he married in Derbyshire can't find a name for his wife or date of marriage, But brides name could have been Warren, he had a daughter Kathleen born in Derbyshire on January 17th 1919 or January 17th 1920 Kathleen had a sister Doris believed to be older than Kathleen.
Francis George Or George Francis was known as Frank he joined the RAF as a young man then it is believed he may have become a coal miner in Derbyshire he had a women relaive with the name Mcavoy maybe( Maggie Mcavoy ) or a simuliar sounding name also believed to live around Limerick area when young sorry I can not give any better information.I know it is a long shot b
Regards Poodles

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Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Martin Kathleen Warren Chesterfield 7b 1718

Might be useful to know where you got this information?
jan

Maybe???But as Jan says ,it would be good to know how you arrived at his name and the info please

name: Francis George Martin
registration district: Limerick
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1894
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101065
volume number: 5
page number: 336

From here

www.familysearch.org


And Kathleens birth cert will give you parents names.

Only Doris Martin with mothers maiden name of Warren I can see on freebmd was born in Suffolk in 1912....But prior to 1911 mothers maiden was not listed on index.

Hi Brummiejan Kathleen is now 92 Kathleen & her 2nd husband Ken were my 2 of my parents closest friends although i have never had much to do with their daughter I always called Kathleen & her late husband Aunt & Uncle , my husband was in the armed forces & no matter where we lived in the world Aunty Kath & Uncle Ken used to come with my parents to visit us Aunty Kath & I take it in turns to phone each other. This afternoon she phoned me & when I said I had traced my dads family tree, she asked if I would tracy her family She gave me all the information I have but ,she is confused at the moment so I have sent her my usual weekly letter asking for more information when & as she remembers it
Poodles

Hi as I told jan the information name & place of birth ect. of Francis George came from his 92 years old daughter Kathleen or Aunty Kath as we call her, she couldn't remember if his name was Francis George or George Francis but he was known as Frank I have just phoned Aunty kath again for more information & she has said she will get someone in to look for her parents 7 sisters BMD certificates & her own Birth certificate we do not live in England so can't look for her we send her flowers & birthday card every year but she is now to frail to visit us & as I have a sick husband i can't get to see her
poodles

When you have the information from her birth cert and or her sisters we may be able to help a little more,so please do come back to this post when/if you have it and we will see what we can do to help.
Does she remember her mothers christian name?


Fan

Thankyou everyone, Aunty kath is very excited about maybe finding a relative . in her own words dead or a live it doesn't matter, & she is facinated that a type writer television thing can talk to people & find people. I can't get through to her that it is a computor I am using i will get back to you as soon as she has found the relivant information unfortunately when found she will have to post it to me so it will take a while thankyou all Poodles

I posted this already but it has got lost somewhere !!

"Come back in yourown (or her) time poodles and we will be glad to try to help !!

Dea Xxx

She can give you the details over the phone from her birth cert cant she Poodles..?

Fan

Hi tried to get information from Auntie kath about her family she is so excited I may find someone who is related to her late family or were friends of her late family unfortunately , she keeps getting distracted so we have decided I will send her a list of questions about her family i.e. Names Dates BMD places they lived ect. as i say she is very excited but at 92 gets very distracted while talking on the phone
so will be in touch hopefully very soon
regards & thankyou poodles

Don't think the birth found for Kathleen is correct - public tree on ancestry shows parents are Fred Martin & Jane Elizabeth Warren

Kathleen Martin

Birth 6 Mar 1920
Death 25 Aug 2003 in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Births Jun 1917 Martin Beatrice D Henson Ecclesall B 9c 716

Births Mar 1920 Martin Kathleen Henson Ecclesall B. 9c 920


Marriages Jun 1915
Henson Annie D to Martin Ecclesall B. 9c 965
Martin Francis G to Henson Ecclesall B. 9c 965

Think this might be the family, could Beatrice be Beatrice Doris?

Births Dec 1892 Henson Annie Dickinson Sheffield 9c 522

Public Tree on ancestry - Beatrice and Doris are names that appear randomly through the generations.

Annie D Henson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Arthur W Henson
Mother's name: Ann E Henson
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Dyers Hill St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Sheffield Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Piece: 4371
Folio: 137
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur W Henson 27
Ann E Henson 28
Annie D Henson 8
Christina D Henson 1

1911 Annie Dickinson Henson living with the following:-

HOUSEHOLD HENSON ANN ELIZA F 1873 38 Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HENSON CHRISTINA DORIS F 1900 11 Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire West Riding

POSSIBLE

Name: Annie D Martin
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1967
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 133

Name: Christina D Henson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Age at Death: 11
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 522

POSSIBLE
Name: Ann E Henson
Birth Date: abt 1873
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1951
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 178

Worth a try - there is a Stephen Lamb on GR who appears to have Kathleen and Beatrice in his tree. Correct yob and birth place.

You could try sending him a PM

Hi & thankyou Debra ,Aunty Kath phoned me today & said her mothers maiden name was Henson Yesterday she was going to give me more information about her late family, but as I say she gets side tracked & we end up talking about something else But she did say she had a sister who died & she also mentioned a few other strange things. which i have to try & put together,I have sent her a list of questions which she has said she will be delighted to answer, but, in the mean time i am trying to peace together the very few things she has already told me,the information from Aunty Kath & the information you have given to me is really going to help me put together Aunty Kath's family tree thankyou so much for your invaluble help & thankyou also to everyone who has & is still giving me the help I need Aunty Kath is now 92 half years old & she is so excited to find out about her family before she goes ( her words not mine )
regards poodles

regards poodles