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Donald Dearden Allsopp Whelan

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Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:05

Having just received newspaper cutting of the death of Donald I now know that he was married to a 'Joan' doctor. The accident happened in Hampshire where they were living at the time.

I also know he was a Lance Corporal in the Army in 1941

Donald was born in 1913 and killed in 1966,
I know his parents Sidney Percy Whelan and Ruth Kitty Dearden and I know he had a sister Hilda (not a lot known about her) she and Donald were born in Croydon.

I have checked BMD but cannot find a marriage for Donald to Joan? Any other ideas please?

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:09

Perhaps the marriage was outside of England/Wales

Were there any offspring?

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:10

Sorry Flick that is what I was hoping to find out or Joan's maiden name.

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:15

The newspaper report would normally mention a man's children in such circumstances.........

Have you checked the same paper for his obituary?

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:20

Hello Flick

No mention of children in the article, I will go back and ask re the obituary.

thank you

angela

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:24

1911.............just as background.........

Person: WHELAN, Ruth K
Address: 52 Leigh Road E Westcliff


WHELAN, Sidney Head Married M 24 1887 Electrical Engineer Calcutta India VIEW
WHELAN, Ruth K Wife Married
2 years F 31 1880 Blackburn Lancs VIEW
WHELAN, Hilda A Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Horsham Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10126 Reference:
RG14PN10126 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED14 SN27

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Prittlewell

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:26

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
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Dearden Ruth K Pancras 1b 189
Whelan Sidney P Pancras 1b 189

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
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DEARDEN Hilda Allsop W Horsham 2b 281

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:28

Hello Flick

Was just looking at that, Sidney is my grandfather's brother, so I think that makes Donald my cousin once removed. Hainv grown up in a children's home I am building my tree little by little.

Thank you once again, will update thread if I find out anything else, I have just send mail to archive on newspaper

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:35

Hello Flick

Just realised that mean Hilda was born before the marriage so was Dearden and not Whelan!

Thanks Angela

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 15:36

Was looking for Hilda!!



looks like Sydney death
Name: Sydney P Whelan
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 97
tried to find his birth but 1911 gives the clue!

WHELAN, Sidney Head Married M 24 1887 Electrical Engineer Calcutta India British subject by parentage
WHELAN, Ruth K Wife Married
2 years F 31 1880 Blackburn Lancs VIEW
WHELAN, Hilda A Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Horsham Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10126 Reference:
RG14PN10126 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED14 SN27

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Prittlewell

Address:
52 Leigh Road E Westcliff County

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:39

I was hoping to have found some later info on Hilda.......but no luck, as yet

Nor can I see deaths for Sidney & Ruth...........did they perhaps move abroad?

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:46

Ruth died Tring Herts 1941, there is Probate details on Ancestry, she left her estate to Donald.

As to Sydney well Shirley have you found the death I have been looking for, for years, I know that he was in the Reading area in 1939 from documents from the National Archives. Ruth in 1941 said she was a widow but she could have just said that as Sid was bigamist more than once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 15:47

maybe
Name: Ruth Whelan
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Berkhamsted
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 2690

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 15:50

Ahh that s the death i found -above :-D

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jul 2011 15:50

Nice finds, Shirley..............you're more awake than I am!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 15:52

lol :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 15:54

Wonder then as Ruth left her estate to Donald whether Hilda had predeceased her.

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 15:57

Not something I had thought about, there are quite a few marriages for Hilda Dearden but none with the middle initials, nothing to make you think yes I will risk that cert.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jul 2011 16:01

See that probate on Ancetsry and Donald looks to be the executor. It may be worth getting a copy of the actual will as it may have other family details on it

Angela

Angela Report 19 Jul 2011 16:01

There is a death for Hilda Dearden aged 1 in Lancashire, my thinking maybe as Ruth's family come from Blackburn.

Well folks I think we have exhausted this thread for now.

Thanks for all your help

Angela