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1851 and 1871 census help please

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supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 12:03

Thank you Janice, I'll go look now :-D

Sue

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:45

PUT 1848

SOMEONE HAS THOMAS EDWIN

:-)

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:44

If you put Thomas Bush born Greenwich 1847 into Search trees, there's one person who comes up with a match. You could try e-mailing her.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:43

I guess so, a simple enquiry has turned into a mystery :-S

Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it, especially at this time of night.

I'll check back tomorrow in case someone has had a brainwave :-D

Thanks again.

Sue

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:39

You'll need to get the cert

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:37

I cannot find any expanded marriage record for him that shows his parentage...aaaargh.

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:32

Looks like son dies

Deaths Sep 1898
Bush Thomas Edwin 25 Woolwich 1d 784

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:29

Chrissie still checking, now looking for marriage record in 1871

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:27

Marriages Mar 1871
Bush Thomas Edwin Woolwich 1d 811
Lemmy Sarah Ann Woolwich 1d 811

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:26

Here's their son and address is John Street

Thomas Edwin Bush
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1873
Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1873
Father's name: Thomas Edwin Bush
Mother's name: Sarah Ann Bush
Parish or Poor Law Union: Blackheath Hill Holy Trinity
Borough: Greenwich

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 21 Jul 2011 00:25

oh my goodness ! I was delayed a bit from posting that last and then looking for him further ... just had a message from a friend in Australia that his nan died this morning ( tonight ) ... so your events overtook me :-)

so it does seem to be him !?

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:23

Now if we can find Thomas and Sarah's marriage and there is no named Father it might be conclusive :-D

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:18

and in 1911


BUSH, THOMAS EDWIN HEAD MARRIED M 64 BRICKLAYER LONDON GREENWICH

BUSH, SARAH ANN WIFE MARRIED 40 F 64 NONE LONDON GREENWICH

BUSH, MARY AMELIA DAUGHTER SINGLE F 35 CHARWOMAN LONDON GREENWICH

BUSH, MARTHA IVY MABEL DAUGHTER F 15 DAILY WORK DOMESTIC LONDON GREENWICH

BUSH, FREDRICK WILLIAM GRANDSON M 6 SCHOOL LONDON WANDSWORTH

BUSH THOMAS EDWIN (RG14PN2677 RG78PN91 RD28 SD4 ED9 SN259)
Address 54 WINFORTON STREET GREENWICH S E

Greenwich Subdistrict Greenwich West
Enumeration District 9 Parish Greenwich

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:15

OK folks. Here he is in 1901

at 10 JOHN STREET, GREENWICH
That surely can't be coincidence

Thomas E Bush
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Bush
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West


Thomas E Bush 53
Sarah A Bush 54
James B Bush 19
Sydney Bush 12
Martha J M Bush 5

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:14

Well the Edwin part fits, date pretty good. Is it a name change from Edwin Moore to Thomas Edwin?

*upgrades to paracetemol*

I can see I have a lot more digging to do.

Thanks again.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 21 Jul 2011 00:10

no ... but if Emma had a different papa Charlotte could have been somewhere with him and Emma :-)

I did think it might be unlikely so assumed we would find a Thomas Bush birth to rule that possibility out ... but

Births Mar 1847
Bush Edwin Moore Greenwich 5 256

and the nearest Thomas Bush birth is jun quarter 1848 in Maidstone ...

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:10

Well here's an interesting spanner in the works! Who is this?
1891
Name: Thomas Edwin Bush
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Bush
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West

Thomas Edwin Bush 43
Sarah A Bush 43 nee Lemmy
Thomas E Bush 17
Elizabetha Bush 11
Charles F Bush 9
James B Bush 7
Sidney A Bush 2


Can't find a birth for him!

Janice

Janice Report 21 Jul 2011 00:06

If that is Edwin, it doesn't explain where Charlotte and Emma are.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Jul 2011 00:04



Thanks Chrissie

*takes aspirin* no idea if that child belonged to Charlotte or one of her siblings, they didn't seem to be big in the marrying stakes. However, it does make sense other than the change in name.

Any suggestions?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Jul 2011 23:56

don't suppose there is any reason that Edwin would be called Thomas in 1851 ?? do you know who this Thomas is ?

Name: Thomas Bush
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent

James Bird Bush 50
Ann Bush 60
Thomas Bush 4