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BIRTH/DEATH DATES & CENSUS RECORDS NEEDED

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JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 18:50

I CANT SEEM TO FIND INFORMATION OF MY GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS BUT JUST THERE NAMES .

THE RECORDS ARE NEEDED FOR MARK HILLS & JEANNE (OR GINNIE) DONALD.
MARK WAS FROM SCOTLAND AND JEANNE (OR GINNIE) WAS FROM SCOTLAND.

THEY HAD A SON NAMED ARTHUR RONALD HILL WHO POSSIBLY COULD HAVE HAD SIBLINGS OR HE COULD HAVE BEEN AN ONLY CHILD.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2011 18:53

can you give us a rough idea of dates - last century or this?

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 18:55

most likely they would have been born from 1845 to 1880 maybe ... around that area

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2011 18:56

??

MARK HILL Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 12 MAY 1865 Dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland
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Parents:
Father: JAMES HILL Family
Mother: SUSAN BELL
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2011 18:57

??

MARK AIKEN HILL Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 06 APR 1866 Ayton, Berwick, Scotland
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HILL Family
Mother: MARGARET YOUNG AIKEN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 18:57

I AM ALSO VERY SORRY , I MADE A MISTAKE .... MARK HILLS WAS FROM ENGLAND AND JEANNE (OR GINNIE) DONALD WAS FROM SCOTLAND

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Aug 2011 18:57

Daniel, to give us a fighting chance, can you tell us where and when Arthur Ronald Hill was born - that'll give us something concrete to work back from.

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 19:00

OK Marie ..

ARTHUR RONALD HILL WAS BORN 18 SEPT 1911 IN CARDIFF, WALES. HE WORKED AS A BRICK LAYER.

Thank You For Helping Out.

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:05

Do you kno whether jeanne was actually born in scotland? There is one that appears on 1891 and 1901 census but has here place of birth as france?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Aug 2011 19:11

Daniel, only way to be absolutely certain of accuracy is to buy the birth certificate:

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1911
Hill Arthur R Donald Cardiff 11a 646

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:21

Jeanne F Donald
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Age Last Birthday 6
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Condition as to Marriage
Where Born Scotland
Address West Walls No 79
Civil Parish St Cuthbert
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Cuthbert
Parliamentary Borough or Division Carlisle
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Carlisle
Administrative County Cumberland
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District St Cuthbert

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:22

Sorry thats from the 1901 census ^

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 19:29

thank you for the help

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:32

r u able to view the original census records? The whole family appear to be from scotland, except their 2 youngest sons, the handwriting on census is quite bad tho, im not too good with reading old handwriting anyway! But can make the majority out if u cant view them. Does it make sense for them to be in ' cumberland' in 1901?

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 19 Aug 2011 19:37

JoP

im not sure, the trouble is that i cant find any census matches, thats my problem, i cant seem to find the accurate information

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:45

Surname Forename Year of birth Place of birth Location in 1901 Individual
Household
Donald Jeanne F 1895 Scotland Cumberland, St Cuthbert View

let me know if i can help with anything, i can view the original

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Aug 2011 19:45

Daniel - that's why I said to buy his birth certificate. That way you'll be 100% sure of parents names, Mark's occupation and you'll also have an address. Seeing as Arthur Ronald was born just months after the 1911 census there's a chance they were at same address.

Anything else is conjecture and it could all go horribly wrong if you trace the wrong people.

The information you've provided so far has changed slightly so please don't take chances.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Aug 2011 19:49

1911 (against my better judgement!)

DONALD, John Head Married M 45 1866 Plumber Glasgow Scotland
DONALD, Mary Wife Married 25 years F 44 1867 Glasgow Scotland
DONALD, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Dressmaker Glasgow Scotland
**DONALD, Jeanie Daughter Single F 17 1894 Book Stitcher Glasgow Scotland
DONALD, John Son Single M 15 1896 Messenger Carlisle Cumberland
DONALD, George Son Single M 13 1898 School Carlisle Cumberland

Registration District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Mary
Enumeration District: 2
Parish: Carlisle

** IF that's your Jeanie, she'd be pregnant at the time the census was taken.

Address: 11a Peter Street Carlisle County: Cumberland

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Aug 2011 19:56

Daniel, is it possible that Jeanne(ie) & Mark never married - I'm not finding a marriage record, but I did find this:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1922
DONALD Jeannie Wildey Carlisle 10b 1106
Wildey William Donald Carlisle 10b 1106

Jo1015

Jo1015 Report 19 Aug 2011 19:56

The father in the 1901 census is a plumber also/maybe same family. Just be aware, it does take a bit of guess work, but you need to find as much solid information as you can before venturing back! Good luck!