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Potty

Many thanks for all your time and effort xx

Have searched, Susie, but cannot find anything more. Sorry!

nudge please x

Potty,

Sorry it's taken a time to reply x

Yes I have Reg's birth cert (he was my graandfather).

Yes parent names are on it.

Hannah died in 1959, I have an entry for this.

Could be Raymond, would have to order cert to be sure to check parent names.

Regards

Could this be Raymond's birth:

Raymond Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Davies
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919
Registration district: Holywell
Inferred County: Merionethshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 278

Susie, I cannot find a death for a Hannah Jones Dec 1957 with a birth year of 1890.

There is a Hannah Davies b1890 d 1957 Wrexham - but Hannah's death cert should be in her married name.

Susie, looking back at your first post, you only have exact DOBS for two of the children, and as Lilian's birth has not yet been found, you only have Reginald's - do you have his birth cert and is where you found the parents' names?

This could be the marriage for the Bertie and Harriet in the 1911:

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
EVANS William Oswestry 6a 1130
JONES Bertie Oswestry 6a 1130
Roberts Harriet Oswestry 6a 1130
Roberts Jane Oswestry 6a 1130

nudge please xx

I have a different wedding cert 9th Nove 1920 that I think fits better with the dates of birth and the fathers names on that are:

William Jones (Deceased) - General labourer (father of Robert)

William Davies - Boot maker (master)

Can you just search on an occupation on the 1911 census??

Regards
Sue

nudge

William

The fathers names on the 1911 wedding cert are ..... wait for it....

John Jones (Collier)
David Davies (Wheelwright)

on the copy of 1920 wedding cert i have William Jones (Deceased) General labouer and William Davies - bootmaker

The 1920 one ties in with Hannah's age as it says 30, which would be correct with the birth I have in 1890.

I think she could be ?

Could Lilian have been illegitimate?

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Davies Lilian M Davies Swansea 11a 2344

This one?

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Jones Lilian Davies Neath 11a 2002

Not seeing a Lilian Jones/Davies born nov 1913 unless she is one of these?

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Jones Lilian Davies Neath 11a 2002

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Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
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JONES Lilian Davies Carmarthen 11a 2781

What are the father's names given as?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Jill

I have the 1911 Marriage cert, but I just can't find a thread to tie things together, as family members do not know Hannah or Roberts parents names, or any of Roberts siblings, although it is thought Hannah may have had sisters called Gladys & Catherine, (Aunty Katie).

Actually the more I think about it and look into it I think the 1911 marriage can't be right as she is down as aged 25 and as I know she was born in 1890 she should only be 21 in 1911.

Just would love to be able to go back further on these family lines, thought if I could trace them on 1911, 1901 & 1891 census I could then go backwards !

Jill

Nothing exciting, General Labourer !

Regards

Sue

I know what you mean Kemp.

That last one was the closest out of that attempt - I still favour my first attempt though even if her name is not quite right ... living in Hoole, married just a short time ... it adds up reasonably well.

I think Sue you might just have to bite the bullet and send off for the 1911 marriage cert - it makes sense as if Robert was away during WW1 then the next child born in 1920 fits with that. Do you know if he was in WW1 - it might be worth trying to find army or navy records.

Jill