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Hi all,

Struggling to find any info on their marriage and their parents. They married in 1911 in the Farnham district. Elsie was born in Brighton. They had a son, Victor (my grandad). I have no information as to where Harry was born. The only info I have on him is that he left Elsie (tut tut) and moved to South Africa.

Any info that anybody can dig up, then I'd appreciate it very much.

Thanks,
Sally

Sally, if you buy the marriage cert, it should give you Harry's father's name and occupation and Harry's age and occupation. You can then look for Harry on the 1911 census which should show his age and POB.

Their marriage registration:

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Parkes Harry E Farnham 2a 321
Terry Elsie Farnham 2a 321

Sally, I'll have a look at the census for you but I think you need to get a copy of the marriage certificate. The reference is Farnham district July-Sep 1911 vol 2A page 321

The certificate will give their father's names and, hopefully, their ages which would enable us to pinpoint them in the records.

Best wishes

Kim

For info....

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Parkes Harry E Farnham 2a 321
Terry Elsie Farnham 2a 321

1911 census
Alfred Parkes head married 22 years age 43 cook born London
Rosa Parkes wife age 44 born London
Harry Parkes son age 22 cook domestic born Northampton
Dorothy Parkes dau age 19 worker in house born Northampton
Margarete Parkes dau age 13 at school born Northampton
Rosa Parkes dau age 10 at school born Acton, Middlesex
Clara Parkes dau age 8 at school born Acton, Middlesex
Richard Whitlock father-in-law, widower, age 69, born Stoke Bruen, Northamptonshire

Address 3 East Station Road, Aldershot (Farnham reg. dist.)

If you want the full RG reference for the above, please shout - I ain't PC literate enough to do cut and paste!

There is this Elsie born in Brighton...........

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
Terry Elsie Eliza Brighton 2b 257

From the Freereg site:

Richard Whitlock born 23 Jul 1841, baptised 22 Aug 1841 at St Mary the Virgin, Stoke Bruerne. Son of John (a tailor) and Rebecca

Do look at this site as Stoke Bruerne is well-covered and there are lots of Whitlocks.

www.freereg.org.uk

Harry Edward F Parkes b1889 Northampton (in Farnham 1911)
Married in Farnham 1911
Elsie Eliza Terry b1889 Brighton.

Hi,

Thanks everyone. I think Kim's info is correct. I'll try and quiz my dad again although "they were never talked about!" !!

Thanks!

Kim and Dawn - thanks. Dawn - yours is def. correct!

Whitlock info is v. interesting Kim - I'll def. take a look. Cheers a bundle!

I found the above Parkes family in Acton in 1901 at 21 Mill Hill Grove

The return states that Alfred Parkes was born in St John's Wood and Rosa Whitlock in Kentish Town. They have children Harry, Dorothy, Margarette and Rosa and another daughter, Lilian, aged 6. They also have a couple of lodgers. Alfred is shown as a restaurant cook.

??

1891 England Census
about Elsie Terry
Name: Elsie Terry
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund Terry
Mother's Name: Eliza Terry
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton

Civil parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 807
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Terry 39
Eliza Terry 35
Emily Terry 11
Edith Terry 8
Maud Terry 5
Elsie Terry 1


1901 England Census
about Elsie Terry
Name: Elsie Terry
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund Terry
Mother's Name: Eliza Terry
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton St Luke
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: East Brighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 288
Piece: 924
Folio: 134
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Terry 49
Eliza Terry 45
Emily Terry 21
Ethel Terry 18
Maude Terry 15
Elsie Terry 11
Jane Cheesman 78 (Mother in Law)

Edmund has possibly remarried..........

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TERRY, Edmund
Address: 8 Newport Street Brighton

TERRY, Edmund Head Married M 59 1852 House Decorator Sussex Brighton VIEW
TERRY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 60 1851 Kent Woolwich VIEW
BAMDEN, Ernest L Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Clerk Sussex Brighton VIEW
BAMDEN, Herbert Son Single M 17 1894 Ralway Clerk Sussex Brighton VIEW
BAMDEN, William Grandson Single M 20 1891 Blacksmith Striker Sussex Brighton VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5129 Reference:
RG14PN5129 RG78PN227 RD79 SD2 ED9 SN185

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
West Brighton Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
8 Newport Street Brighton County:
Sussex

Struggling to find Elsie in 1911. :-S

Harrie's WW1 record is on Ancestry - if you don't have access, PM me your email address and I will send them to you.

He married Elsie Terry, 2nd August 1911 at Farnham Registrars Office.

Address given is 3 East Station Road and his occupation was pastry cook.

There is one child mentioned, Edward Leslie Francis, b 1916 Aldershot - the DOB is very faint.

When was Victor born?

Edit:

Is this Victor's birth? I wonder why he isn't mentioned on the Service Record?

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Parkes Victor C E Terry Brighton 2b 416

Married 17 Feb 1863 at Holy Trinity, Haverstock Hill, Middlesex

Richard Whitlock, bachelor, 21, a carpenter of 11 Wellington Road, son of John Whitlock, a tanner (!)

Harriet spinster, 22 of 10 Albert Terrace, Prince of Wales Road, dau of Benjamin Poole, a brewer

According to later census returns, Harriet was born in Beaminster, Dorset.
If you google Dorset Online Parish Clerks, you might find some goodies there (I'm not sure about the coverage)

Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)
Terry Eliza 47 Brighton 2b 140

Victor was born in 1912 and his birth is registered in Brighton. ?

Sally, do you have Victor's birth cert? Is that where you got his parents names from?