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Clarice Daly

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Lynne

Lynne Report 6 Oct 2011 03:25

Looking for help with info about my grandmother Clarice Daly, born 1892 approx in Blackpool.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:02

correct spelling of name is slightly different from the one you've given

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)

Daly Clarissa Fylde 8e 720





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:06

also on lancashire bmds .... and with mmn!

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DALY Clarissa Blackpool A Blackpool GOUGH BLKA/4/4



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:08

Possible marriage of parents from lancsbmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1888
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DALY Bernard GOUGH Emily Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/14/187



same information from freebmd

Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)

>>>>>DALY Bernard Fylde 8e 1068
>>>>>Gough Emily Fylde 8e 1068
Porter William Fylde 8e 1068
RICHARDSON Sarah Fylde 8e 1068




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:09

Did Clarissa marry William Henry Ryan??



sylvia

jax

jax Report 6 Oct 2011 04:19

looks like mother died

Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Daly Emily 30 Fylde 8e 418

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:21

I foudn a suggestion that there was an older sister, Lily born ca 1890

This looks like Emma and Lily on the 1891 Census

Name: Emma Daly
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Elesmere, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Layton With Warbreck
Ecclesiastical parish: St john
Town: Blackpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Blackpool

Emma Daly 28 Liivng on Husband's Means
Lily Daly 1 b.ca 18890, Manchester, Lancashire




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:22

Hi jax


no wonder I couldn't find her!


Can't find either Bernard or Clarissa in 1901.

Now I'll see if Lily turns up!





sylvia!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:26

Oh dear

transcribers strike again!!!!


1901 Census

Name: Lily Daly
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Blackpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Blackpool St John the Evangelist
Town: Blackpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Blackpool

Mary A Garstang 39 Charwoman
Colin Garstang 12 Schoolboy
Lily Daly 11 Schoolgirl
Clorine Daly 9 b.ca 1892, Blackpool

Address:- (impossible to decipher .... looks like Fourhundred)

EDIT:- Oct 7 00.39 am ................ address is possibly/probably Fairhurst St, see LancashireAnn's posting below.



Clorine is Clarissa!!


I've sent in a name change!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:32

I wonder if this could possibly be Bernard in 1891


1891 Census

Name: Bernard Daly
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Layton With Warbreck
Ecclesiastical parish: St john
Town: Blackpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Blackpool

Caroline Mary Westaway 38 Manageress
John Lancaster 59
Samuel Thornhill 51
Myers Florence 21
Mary Hall 18
Jane Hesketh 58
Jane Harvey 22
Louisa Coalston 38
Mary McConville 37
Martha McConville 23
Bernard Daly 27 Married, Boots
Joseph Mason 22
Bernard Blake 24

Address:- Royal Hotel, Adelaide Place, Layton with Warbreck, Blackpool





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 04:38

I wonder if Bernard married again??


from Lancsbmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DALY Bernard MURTAGH Alice Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/26/60


or freebmd

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)

DALY Bernard Fylde 8e 1231
Murtagh Alice Fylde 8e 1231



sylvia

jax

jax Report 6 Oct 2011 04:40

poor Lily died

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
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Daly Lily 18 Fylde 8e 440

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 05:46

Lily's death from lancsbmd

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
DALY Lily 18 Kirkham Preston KH/28/53




I wonder where Clarissa is in 1911?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Oct 2011 09:55

This looks like Bernard in 1911 - sorry I don't have a sub to see who he is living with

HOUSEHOLD DALY BERNARD M 1864 47 Fylde Lancashire

jax

jax Report 6 Oct 2011 13:03

1911 census - household transcription
Person: DALY, Bernard
Address: 120 Preston Road Marton Blackpool


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DALY, Bernard Head Married M 47 1864 Hotel Porter Lancs Manchester VIEW

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married 12 years

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Oct 2011 13:29

Banns: St John the Evangelist, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Bernard Daly - Widower of the Clifton Arms Hotel in this parish
Matilda Roberts - Spinster of 23 Fisher St. in this parish
Banns Read: 9 Feb 1896, 2nd: 16 Feb 1896, 3rd: 23 Feb 1896
Notes: 6-Feb
Register: Banns 1893 - 1900, Page 88, Entry 261
Source: LDS Film 1526144

Clifton Arms Hotel could possibly be about right for the address 120 Preston Road and bernard above describes himself as a hotel porter

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 19:00

Ann

those are the Banns ........ have you found a marriage?

Or did that marriage not happen.

Or Matilda die?

and he married Alice Murtagh 3 years later?




The only Bernard Daly that I could find in 1901 that seemed to fit "ours" was this one ................ I know it says birthplace London, but then almost everyone else on that list is shown as born either in ireland or London!

1901 Census

Name: Bernard Daly
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: St Olaves Chambers

John Arundell 47 Manager (Lodging House)
Kate Arundell 34
Edward Arundell 21
Hannah Arundell 15
Mary Arundell 11
Alexander Arundell 4
Bernard Daly 33 Servant, Married, Shop Assistant
Rebecca Graham 38
Charles Green 42
Henry Berryman 28
Henry Stelly 48
Charles Timpson 24
Richard Evans 47
John Morris 26
John Devine 22
Fred Walher 21
Albert Jones 26
Edward Morris 36
Joe Jones 50
Tom Kelly 48
William Brown 61
Charles Walker 42
Tom Sullivan 59
George Cook 60
Joe Price 50
George Aspray 48
Walter Lepton 32
William Willis 58
William Dowghey 32
Alfred Thomas 38
Mike Kennedy 40
Tom Hudson 59
William McGeorge 60
Alfred Pearce 60
John Smith 40
Fred Brodker 55
Tom Smith 45
John Jones 38
Walter Shelsor 54
Jim Stalton 30
Tom Young 30
Henry Timmonds 48
Bill Jackson 50
Thomas Warren 27
Alfred Mason 46
James Harrick 51
George Mead 21
Walter Rudkin 52
Richard Homery 41
Charles Lennard 42
John Green 61
George Willis 50
Robert Jones 58
Thomas Joseph 38
Con Coleman 25
Ruby Horan 55
James Roche 34
Michael Bryan 61
James Smith 61
James Nookenet 42
Samuel Jones 69
George Lloyd 44
George Mitchell 62
John Carthy 36
Thomas Bryn 62
Benjaman Cobb 49
Edward Gladwin 35
William Turner 44
William Hives 66
James Taylor 24
Fred Williams 60
Edward Tyler 52
James Hudson 40
Homer Scott 56
Henry Collins 50
Jame Sharp 34
Elizah Mallet 82
John Goole 64
Harry Brand 59
James Johnson 24
Charls Norton 57
Tim Flomgan 36
William Oliver 50
Aff Osechard 50
Bennie McCarty 58
Thomas Lavington 56
John Collins 63
Tom Love 50
John Doaovan 27
Jame Watts 53
Charls Bannan 34
George Stevens 60
James Crawley 24
Oatreck Burke 29
James Warren 53
James Collard 55
Tom Williams 62
J Barton 47
James Murphy 53
William Palmer 49

Address:- St Olaves Chambers



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2011 19:08

I cannot find a marriage between Bernard Daly and Matilda Roberts on freebmd


and can't see a death for a Matilda Roberts.




but I couldn't find an Alice Daly on the 1901 census either!





sylvia

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Oct 2011 22:50

It is possible that the marriage did not take place. At least it did not at St John's as all the marriages are supposed to be transcribed on lan-opc for that year. As both addresses on the banns were in St John's parish it could be assumed that the marriage would have taken place there.

With the hotel connections it does seem likely to be the right Bernard. It is not the same address as 1911 as the banns were in the parish of St John (Blackpool parish church) & I would guess Preston Road of 1911 is what is now Preston Old Road which is in the parish of St Paul's in Marton

could the 1901 address be Fairhurst St?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Oct 2011 00:40

Ann


It could indeed!


thank you


I'll edit that posting right now.



sylvia