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what has happened to elizabeth elsey ???????

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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 16 Oct 2011 09:53

Can't see the other burial.

Jill

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 16 Oct 2011 22:20

This may be the Elizabeth from the 1898 death as the age is right. It certainly casts some doubt.

1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Elsley
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Dunstans Church
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Lydia St

Occupation: - washerwoman

Condition as to marriage: - single

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern

Piece: 308
Folio: 65
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Sophia Elsley 32 - Head; widow
Jos Elsley 17
Elizabeth Elsley 59
Wm Elsley 24
Fred Elsley 4

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 16 Oct 2011 22:24

good Ozibird, that's what I meant, searching the censuses to see whether the possibles could be ruled out ...

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Oct 2011 22:33

and this looks like Sophia in 1881 ..... with Elisabeth also present

1881 Census

Name: Sophia Elsley
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John B. Elsley
Mother's Name: Sophia Elsley
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Digby Walk

Occupation: Dressmaker <<<< wrong

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green

John B. Elsley 51 Shoe Maker
Sophia Elsley 44 Dressmaker
Sophia Elsley 17 Blind one eye
Henry W. Elsley 13
Frederick Elsley 9
Joseph Elsley 7
Elizabeth Elsley 49 b.ca 832, Bethnal Green, Sister, Unmarried, Washerwoman
Arthur Elsley 18 Blind one eye
William Elsley 14

Address:- 9 Digby Walk




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Oct 2011 22:33

so it seems that Elizabeth Elsley who died in 1891, was NOT Elizabeth Elsey




sylvia

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 16 Oct 2011 22:38

Yes, chrissiex. I was reading through the thread again and realised nobody had taken up your suggestion.

I agree, Sylvia. I don't think that death is the one.

Has anybody checked 1911 to see if she's still alive then?

Ozi

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Oct 2011 22:41

Incidentally, mother Sophia's age is wrong on the 1891 Census ................. it is more like 52 on the iamge, meaning she was born ca 1839, and fitting ebtter with the 1881 Census.



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Oct 2011 22:42

Hi, Ozi


I haven't ............. I don't have a sub to 1911.




sylvia

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 16 Oct 2011 23:42

Same here. Ozi

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 17 Oct 2011 00:22

there is this person in 1911 ( I don't have a subscription either ... she is not living with any other Elsey )

ELSEY ELIZABETH 1833 78 Maidstone Kent

Deaths Jun 1913
Elsey Elizabeth 80 Maidstone 2a 984

on a quick search I do not see an Elizabeth Elsey that age in Kent in 1901

doing wildcard searches for 'living with' in the 1911 that Elizabeth seems to be alone in a household, maybe not likely for our Elizabeth

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2011 00:30

I did see that one on the "free" search that I did, but couldn't think why "ours" might be in Maidstone!


It would be good if someone could look at the actual image though, to definitely rule her out.



sylvia