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June

June Report 25 Oct 2011 12:07

Looking for James Robert Conyers in the 1891 Census ?
Born 1861 Leeds showing in 1901 Census at Knowsthorp Art Cottage,Leeds
aged 40 and 1911 Census 324 York Road, Leeds
Married Eliza Pickles in 1883
looking for Birth records and Parents names ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Oct 2011 12:13

1891 name change already done

Name: James R Compos
[James R Conyers]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Compos
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3686
Folio: 74
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James R Compos 30
Eliza Compos 29
Harry Compos 7
Fred Compos 4
Arthur Compos 7/12
Emma Heald 17

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Oct 2011 12:14

Do you have access to Ancestry ?

National Probate Record

Name: James Robert Conyers
Probate Date: 8 Jan 1915
Death Date: 13 May 1914
Death Place: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Oct 2011 12:16

The marriage certificate will give his father's name:

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Conyers James Robert Leeds 9b 753
PICKLES Eliza Leeds 9b 753

June

June Report 25 Oct 2011 12:17

Thanks very much for your help.

Regards

June

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Oct 2011 12:18

Name: James Robert Conyers
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 753

marriage cert. will give you his father's name!

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Oct 2011 12:29

Search for
Type: Births First name(s): james robert
Start date: Mar 1860 End date: Dec 1862
District: Leeds (1837-1929)

only two James Roberts born in Leeds between 1860 and 1862:-

Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
WILSON James Robert Leeds 9b 290

EDIT:-
Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
WILSON Matilda Ann Leeds 9b 290

Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
THOMPSON James Robert Leeds 9b 35

............so maybe he wasn't born with the name Conyers??

could be his mother married someone with the name Conyers and he just took the name.


Possibility that the one born 1861 died:-
Deaths Dec 1863 (>99%)
THOMPSON JAMES ROBERT Leeds 9b 264


.......just in case there is a link, this is the 1860 James Robert in 1861:-

Robert Wilson Matilda Ann abt 1822 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Head Leeds, Yorkshire (Cabinet Maker)
Matilda Ann Wilson Robert abt 1834 Ireland Wife Leeds, Yorkshire (French Polisher)
James Robert Wilson Robert, Matilda Ann abt 1860 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds, Yorkshire
Matilda Ann Wilson Robert, Matilda Ann abt 1860 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds, Yorkshire
Jane Sharp abt 1833 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Visitor Leeds, Yorkshire
Sarah Jane Rivins abt 1841 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Visitor Leeds, Yorkshire

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 13:27

Matilda Ann Conyers married James Ranson 1868 Dec Q Leeds 9b 564

James Ranson b 1861 Leeds appears as such with James senior and Matilda in 1871 so he has taken the name of his stepfather at this stage

1881 James Ranson b 1861 Leeds Model Maker is a boarder with bro William in the home of the Dickson family

On marrriage and later censuses he has reverted to Conyers

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 13:45

When Matilda A Conyers married James Ranson 3/11/1868 she was a widow and her father was William Priestley (Overlooker)

Matilda Ann Priestley 24 married Edwin Conyers 27 Mechanic on 25/6/1859 Holbeck St matthew
His father John Conyers Cloth dresser

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 14:18

Edwin Conyers appears 1861 with his parents tho he shows himself as married but no Matilda present
He died 1863 DEc Q Leeds 9b 297
I wonder if Matilda had gone home to Ireland to have her baby (James) and that is the reason his birth was not registered in Leeds -or it could just be they did not bother -registration was not compulsory till around 1875

1841 Matilda aged 7 is with what look like siblings Joseph 14 and Eliza 12 both born Yorks -she is shown again as b Ireland

1851 Matilda Ann Priestley b 1832 Belfast lodger in Leeds

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 14:27

Or alternatively -looking at what Catherine has posted could it be that the reason Matilda Ann is not with her husband Edwiin in 1861 is not that she has returned to Ireland but that she has left him for Robert Wilson?
Seems to fit with age and place of birth for Matilda and James Robert's later profession as Cabinet Maker
Think the birth cert of James Robert wilson is needed to settle this

June

June Report 25 Oct 2011 16:29

Thankyou for all the information researched, very much appreciated.

Regards

June

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 19:41

James Robert Wilson and his twin sister Matilda Ann Wilson were both born 14/10/1860 and baptised 20/11/1860 Leeds children of Robert Wilson and Matilda Ann Wilson, so it would seem that Robert Wilson was the father of both

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 19:56

The twin sister Matilda Ann also appears as Ranson 1871 after her mothers marriage to James Ranson
She marries 1878 Jun Q Leeds Mark Haley (as Matilda Ann C Ranson -a nod to the name Conyers?)
!881 at 31 Franchise St Leeds she andMark have a 5 monthold son Mark W Haley

June

June Report 25 Oct 2011 20:09

Sorry a bit confused ! what do you think James Robert's surname was registered as at birth ?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 25 Oct 2011 20:20

He and Matilda were both registered as Wilson 1860 Oct Q Leeds
Catherine has given the ref no earlier

June

June Report 25 Oct 2011 20:35

When did she marry Robert Wilson ?

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Oct 2011 23:08

He looks to have been born and baptised as Wilson.

Name: James Robert Wilson
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1860
Parish: Leeds, St Saviour
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1860
Father's Name: Robert Wilson
Mother's Name: Matilda Ann Wilson

Name: Matilda Ann Wilson
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1860
Parish: Leeds, St Saviour
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1860
Father's Name: Robert Wilson
Mother's Name: Matilda Ann Wilson

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Oct 2011 23:13

just to make things clearer:-

1871
Name: James Ranson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Ranson
Mother's Name: Matilda A Ranson
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 4556
Folio: 98
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ranson 43

<<<< Matilda A Ranson 37

James Ranson 19
William H Ranson 14
Edward Ranson 12

<<<< Matilda A Ranson 10 (twins born and baptised as Wilson)
<<<< James Ranson 10

Mary J Ranson 9
Albert Ranson 6
Phillip Ranson 5



The Ranson family in 1861:-
James Ranson Elizabeth abt 1827 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Head Leeds, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Ranson James abt 1827 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife Leeds, Yorkshire
James Ranson James,Elizabeth abt 1853 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds, Yorkshire
Elizabeth A Ranson James,Elizabeth abt 1854 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds, Yorkshire
William H Ranson James,Elizabeth abt 1856 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds, Yorkshire
Edward Ranson James,Elizabeth abt 1860 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds, Yorkshire
Emily Appleyard abt 1846 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Servant Leeds, Yorkshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Oct 2011 23:33

I would say that she didn't marry Robert Wilson.

Matilda Ann Priestley married Edwin Conyers in 1859

1861 she had left her husband and was living with Robert Wilson to whom she had twins, James and Matilda Ann Wilson.

Edwin Conyers died, Matilda left Robert (or he too died) and she married James Ranson in 1868.

..........seems she had a busy time. ;-)