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please can i ask some one to open the Births and Baptisms
for
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish

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Name: Jane Barber
Mother: Harriet Barber
Father: George Barber
Birth: city
Baptism: date - city

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still in need of census help please
i have jane barber marred to
richard goodhew in 1886 west ham essex

jane was born 1865 west ham essex
i dont have any info for richard not even his birth

im trying to find them on the census records with no luck

this is the marrige im going by and i can see Ruth Pattison married
Thomas Nathaniel Bradbury in the 1911 search all though i carnt open the census

Record Jane Barber Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex

View Record Thomas Nathaniel Bradbury Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex

View Record Richard Goodhew Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex

View Record Ruth Pattison


thank you for any help

shelly xxx

BRADBURY, Thomas Nathaniel Head Married
24 years M 49 1862 Stationary Engine Driver London Westminster VIEW
BRADBURY, Ruth Wife Married 24 years F 43 1868 Essex Tidal Basin VIEW
BRADBURY, Ruth Maud Daughter Single F 20 1891 Engraver Essex Tidal Basin VIEW
BRADBURY, Ada Daughter Single M 18 1893 Entry Clerk Essex Tidal Basin VIEW
BRADBURY, Lily Daughter Single F 15 1896 Rubber Works Essex Tidal Basin VIEW
BRADBURY, May Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Essex Tidal Basin VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9472 Reference:
RG14PN9472 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED2 SN135

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Canning Town Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
30 Saville Road Silvertown E County:
Essex

Dea x

You're right, Thomas Nathanial & Ruth Bradbury were married 24 years per the 1911 census.

SO - we are looking for Jane Barber + Richard Goodhew then ???

Dea Xxx

thank you Dea and MarieCeleste

so i still have my two missing on the census records


Record Jane Barber Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex
View Record Richard Goodhew Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex

edit............yes Dea the two abouth are the ones im looking for
please

Shelly - are they direct ancestors (if so, who were their children?) or are you tracking other relatives forwards?

i have jane barber in 1881 with her perants
im trying to find her with richard to see if she had any children


1881 England Census about Jane Barber
Name: Jane Barber
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Barber
Mother's Name: Harriet Barber
Gender: Female
Where born: Canning TN, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 25 Wouldham St

jane is the daugher of my 3x grand perants

im now trying to find out who all the children got marred to
and any children thay had


jane and richard just seem to disaper afther there marrige
i have also look on the Immigration & Travel list with no luck

still need help please on finding the census for

Jane Barber Jul-Aug-Sep 1886 West Ham Essex

and Richard Goodhew

thank you xx

a Jane Goodhew married in 1911

Marriages Jun 1911
CROFT Mary A W.ham 4a 389
Donne Charles G W.Ham 4a 389
Goodhew Jane W.Ham 4a 389
Mancktelow Thomas West Ham 4a 389

could have been just before the census and registered after ...

but there is no death of a Richard Goodhew to suit 1886 to 1911

no Richard Goodhew in the Imperial Yeomanry in the Anglo-Boer war c1901

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/iyg.htm


there are three Richard Goodhews in 1881 born 1848-1868

Richard Goodhew
mother Jane
abt 1872 Harwich, Essex, England
Harwich St Nicholas, Essex
- too young, in 1891 is single, on vessel in Essex
- birth reg 1871 Tendring

Richard Goodhew
parents Adam, Emily
abt 1873 East Malling, Kent, England
East Malling, Kent
- too young, in 1891 is in infantry in Maidstone
- I don't see any birth reg

Richd. Goodhew
wife Mary
abt 1853 East Malling, Kent, England
Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Rochester St Margaret, Kent
- in 1891 and 1901 is a prisoner in Portsea
- birth reg 1851 or 1854 Malling


not a large field to choose from for births starting 1840

Births Dec 1851
Goodhew Richard Henry Malling 5 390

Births Jun 1854
GOODHEW Richard Luck Malling 2a 343

Births Dec 1855 ( died 1861 )
Goodhew Richard Sevenoaks 2a 326

Births Mar 1861
GOODHEW Richard Alfred Malling 2a 384


there's no death of a Jane Goodhew 1886 to 2005 to match her birth


before going much farther I think you need the Goodhew Barber marriage certificate to verify that it is actually your Jane


I can only wonder whether the one who ended up in prison had married Jane bigamously ...


here is a death in the right vicinity though

Deaths Mar 1933 ( dob c1851 )
Goodhew Richard 82 Billericay 4a 872

hI chrissiex

think you are right i need the marrige cert to be share

i have seen the info you have given me but it just dont add up to richard geting married in west ham essex

ok marrige cert on the way

thak you xx

hm


1881

George Barber 53
Harriet Barber 46
Charles Barber 26
Eliza Barber 23
Agnes Barber 20
William Barber 18
Jane Barber 16
Mary A. Barber 14
Emma Barber 12
Ann Barber 8
Fred Barber 6
George Barber 3


okay ... couldn't find them in 1871 so I wondered about blended family with different surnames but here they are in 1861 in Plaistow West Ham

George Barber 34
Harriett Barber 24
Charles Barber 7
Harry Barber 5
Eliza Barber 2
Agnes Barber 6 MO
Harry Thomas 24
John Stain 42


but I can't identify Jane's birth ...


1871 in West Ham

George Barber 43
Harriet Barber 35
Charles Barber 16
Harry Barber 14
Eliza Barber 12
Agnes Barber 10
William Barber 8
>> Jenny Barber 6 born Plaistow
Mary A Barber 4
Emma Barber 1


Births Dec 1863
Barber William West Ham 4a 13

Births Dec 1866
Barber Mary A W. Ham 4a 44

no Jane ( or Jenny ) in between

I wonder whether James Q1 1865 is a mistranscribed Jane ? ( the index was retyped long ago from a handwritten index ) ... that James probably died same quarter ...

or whether Jane was really an 'adopted' child

ok so fare i dont think it is the jane maria born 1869
as she is in the 1891 census with her mother

so now we have my jane born 1865 ??

and jane barber born 1961 perants are john and caroline

will now see if i can find another marrige to fit this jane and see if i can find 1891 census to see if it will say sratford or canning town


just gotting it down so i dont for get who in looking for and so every one eals can see were i have got to

UP DATE

i now have the marrige cert for
jane barber and richard goodhew
and it is my jane as father is george barber

also the other marrige to
thomas mancktelow in 1911 is my jane
i now this as her mother and father are liveing in the same streeet as thomas in 1901

so my jane is still missing in 1901 census
pluss i carnt find her in 1911

i also carnt find thomas mancktelow to see if jane is liveing with him

help please thank you xx




this is my jane barber

1881 England Census about Jane Barber
Name: Jane Barber
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Barber
Mother's Name: Harriet Barber
Gender: Female
Where born: Canning TN, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 25 Wouldham St

Can you give full details from the 1911 marriage cert such as age of Thomas and his occupation and address would be useful

no sorry GlitterBaby
its the 1886 cert i have
jane married richard goodhew
it looks like he was a bigamist and born in east maiiling kent and spent a lot of time in prision

i carnt find jane in 1901
and as there is a marrige record for jane goodhew and thomas Mancktelow
i thoult i would have a look at the 1911 census but carnt find that one as well

if it helps here is thomas in 1901



1901 England Census about Thos Mancktelow
Name: Thos Mancktelow
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Limehouse, London, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 225
Piece: 1584
Folio: 138
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Mancktelow 38
Mary A Mancktelow 18
Sarah Mancktelow 17
Annie Mancktelow 14
Horace Mancktelow 10
Albert Mancktelow 8
Florence Mancktelow 6
Mary Pullen 48

I am still confused ...

how do we know it is your Jane Barber Goodhew who married Thomas Mancktelow in 1911 if you don't have the certificate ? oh I see, same street, well ... still wise to confirm !

is there a death for a Jane Mancktelow that matches your Jane Barber ? ( sorry my Ancestry subscription has expired so I am useless for that , the only one freebmd has is 1922 Chelsea aged 55 )

and how have you concluded that Richard Goodhew was the one I posted about from East Malling and that he was a bigamist ??

it is a plausible theory which is why I suggested it :-) but just a theory ?

what is the information about Richard Goodhew on the marriage certificate please, age, occupation, father, father's occupation ?

there are these two in 1911

searching for Thomas M*low born 1860 +/- 3 years

MANKTELOW THOMAS 1862 49 Eastbourne Sussex

MANKTELOW THOMAS 1860 51 Watford Hertfordshire

but no Jane living with either ...


Deaths Dec 1924 ?
Mancktelow Thomas 62 Limehouse 1c 277

Chrissiex

From Ancestry.

Name: Jane Mancktelow
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 293


Name: Jane Mankelow
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: West Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1196