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dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 1 Nov 2011 20:02

I have a Marjorie Clarke who was born 4th July 1902 in Massachusetts, USA.
Her parents were William Henry Clarke b 1861 in UK and Kate Watson b 1868 Richmond, Yorks.

I have Marjorie Clarke on the 1910 census at Warren, Worcester Massachusetts. She was 7 years old and born in USA with her parents and sister age 6.

I also have her on the 1920 census in Jersey City Ward 9, Hudson, New Jersey. I think she lived on Sunset AVenue? Again with her parents, Marjorie was 17 years old.

I have not been able to find her on the 1930 US census, but I think she might have got married between the 1920 and 1930 census and may be under the surname Kersting.

I have her death in Woodlawn Cemetery, NY where she is down as Majory C. Kersting, age 71.

Can anyone give me the details of the 1930 census and when and where she might have married Mr. Kersting.

Many thanks
Jo

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Nov 2011 20:10

Do you have this?

Social Security Death Index about Marjory Kersting
Name: Marjory Kersting
SSN: 147-36-8705
Last Residence: 07090 Westfield, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 4 Jul 1902
Died: Sep 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1962)

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 1 Nov 2011 20:25

Alviegal

Many thanks for your help with my Marjory. I do actually have the SS Death Index details.
Kersting seems an odd name to me, but I might be wrong.
Again many thanks
Jo

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 1 Nov 2011 21:48

For reference:

1920 US Census
Name: Marjorie Clarke
[Marjorie Clocker]
Home in 1920: Jersey City Ward 9, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: William H Clarke
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Name: Kate Clarke
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H Clarke 58
[52]
Kate Clarke 49
Marjorie Clarke 17
Doris Clarke 16
William P Eckies 22
Ida Eckies 23
Lillian Fallon 35
David Fallon 15
[67]
Eva A Houston 64
Grace W Houston 56

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Nov 2011 22:47

Probably a red herring:
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Vincent John Kersting
Name: Vincent John Kersting
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1878
Birth Place: New York City, New Jersey
Residence: Union, New Jersey
Race: White


Lists his wife as Marjory C Kersting. He'd be a LOT older than she is if that's your Marjory! His first wife must have died as I think she shows up as Louise on the various census.


Maureen

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 2 Nov 2011 15:41

Lynn from up North

Thank you for the 1920 US census for reference. I did not have a note of her being down as Marjorie Clocker, so have added that to my info.
Would love to find her on the 1930 census or the marriage.

Thank you very much for your help

Jo

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 2 Nov 2011 15:47

Maureen in NY

No, I don't think the World War 2 Draft reg. card you found for Vincent John Kersting is a 'Red Herring'.

At the Woodlawn Cemetery, she is engraved as Marjory C. Kersting, so you have found the right husband. If she got married late in life, they often find someone older to live with!

On the 1930 US Census, is Vincent Kersting with Louise?
Just trying to eliminate a few more years as to when they were married.

Many thanks for your help

Jo

Thelma

Thelma Report 2 Nov 2011 15:58

1930 United States Federal Census
about Vincent J Kesting
Name: Vincent J Kesting
Home in 1930: Roselle Park, Union, New Jersey
View Map
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Louise A Kesting
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent J Kesting 50
Louise A Kesting 46
Estelle B Kesting 23





MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Nov 2011 17:39

Hi Jo,

Check out:
http://archive.wmlnj.org/search.cgi

If you search the archives for the Westfield Leader by decade for Kersting-short obituaries for Vincent and Marjory show up.

Don't see a marriage date,though.

Good luck,
Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Nov 2011 18:18

Oh! On Vincent's obit it mentions two step sons Paul W and Donald C ??both of Roselle Park.

Took me a while to figure out the surname,but I'm pretty sure it's:
1930 United States Federal Census about Marjory Oehlke
Name: Marjory Oehlke
Home in 1930: Roselle, Union, New Jersey
View Map
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred P Oehlke
Race: White
Alfred P Oehlke 36
Marjory Oehlke 27
Paul Oehlke 5
Don Oehlke 4 3/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Roselle, Union, New Jersey; Roll: 1389; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 138

Maureen

Thelma

Thelma Report 2 Nov 2011 18:46

Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001
about Oehlke
Name: Oehlke no first name
Gender: Female
Spouse's Name: Alfred P Oehlke
Divorce Date: 1941
County: Pinellas
Certificate Number: 10126

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Nov 2011 18:53

I think that must be them,Thelma,as it doesn't look as though Alfred died until:
Social Security Death Index about Alfred Oehlke
Name: Alfred Oehlke
SSN: 136-07-5277
Last Residence: 07979 Pottersville, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 8 Nov 1892
Died: Jul 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)

Maureen

Thelma

Thelma Report 2 Nov 2011 18:57

Here you go
Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
about Marjory Clark Oehlke
Name: Marjory Clark Oehlke
Marriage Date: 1941
County of Marriage: Hillsborough


Volume: 649
Certificate: 28364
Source: Florida Department of Health

Thelma

Thelma Report 2 Nov 2011 18:59

Well found in the 1930, Maureen

Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
about Vincent J Kerstine
Name: Vincent J Kerstine
Marriage Date: 1941
County of Marriage: Hillsborough


Volume: 649
Certificate: 28364
Source: Florida Department of Health

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Nov 2011 19:03

Brilliant,Thelma!!!!!!! Great team work!!!!
Must say I never would have expected to find them down in Florida!!

Maureenxx

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 2 Nov 2011 20:33

Thelma and Maureen in NY

Gosh both of you have been busy while I have been getting the evening meal, etc etc.

Maureen - I did manage to look on the website you gave me, but I could not find the short obituaries you mentioned. Will try again later

A couple of marriages for Marjory and divorce in Florida. As you say, why Florida? I suppose they have a winter residence in Florida and a summer one in New York. I need to digest the info you have both found me.

When looking through the Westfield Leader, I found Mrs. Kersting had a busy social life!!

Thank you both very much indeed for your help.

Regards
Jo

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 2 Nov 2011 22:13

Maureen

Many thanks for those websites. Its late in UK, so will look tomorrow.
Many thanks again
Jo

mgnv

mgnv Report 3 Nov 2011 01:28


Assuming you don't have Ancestry -


You can look up Kate Clarke in Berkshire MA and get her 1900 image via:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=NORTH_AMERICA
Alt http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu632unit#page/n330/mode/1up
[addy=Housatonic St Lenox
NB the USS Houstonic was the first vessel to be sunk by a sub, the CSS H.L.Hunley, in 1864.
The Houstonic was named after the river. Houstonic St leads to the river 4km to east.]
[Bro James Clarke also present, b Aug 1868 in England, immig 1887, 1 yr after Wm]

LDS look up on Massachusetts Births, 1841-1915
On the image of Doris Jane's b.entry 3/1/1904, William is a Graindealer, and both parent's pob=Yorkshire, Eng.

http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po630unit#page/n907/mode/1up
[addy=Gilbert Rd, Warren]

http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1046unit#page/n594/mode/1up
[image too stained to really see addy, but, checking on previous page, my guess is 66 Clifton Place.
According to http://maps.google.com/ there street still exists in Jersey City]

http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1072unit#page/n160/mode/1up
[possibly next to his dad - both at 12?8 Walnut St, Roselle Park]


http://www.archive.org/stream/newjerseycensus00reel1389#page/n674/mode/1up
[addy=606 Chandler Ave, Roselle - 2 (long) blks E of Walnut]

http://www.archive.org/stream/newjerseycensus00reel1390#page/n93/mode/1up
[addy=128 Walnut St, Roselle Park]


NB For the stuff from www.archive.org, magnify by 4 clicks before saving image.

Note for Maureen - I went to Union City once. I'd just got off the boat with a guy who wound up giving me a lift to Wyoming, and he'd parked his car in Union City, so we got on a cab, left the quayside and shot into a tunnel and 5 mins later were in a maze of oil refineries. Talk abt a culture shock. To quote WC Fields "all things considered, I'd rather be in Co Durham".

Thelma

Thelma Report 3 Nov 2011 11:21

I guess that you would follow her sons.
U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010
about Paul W Oehlke
Name: Paul W Oehlke
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1924
Death Date: 3 Sep 1974
SSN: 265209629
Branch 1: ARMY
Enlistment Date 1: 1 Apr 1943
Release Date 1: 23 Dec 1945
===============================
Social Security Death Index
about Paul Oehlke
Name: Paul Oehlke
SSN: 265-20-9629
Last Residence: 07203 Roselle, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 30 Aug 1924
Died: Sep 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951



MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Nov 2011 12:13

It looks like Donald might still be alive in Pottersville N.J.

Maureen

PS
LOL! Malcolm-it IS rather Hades-like in that area,isn't it!!