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dizzyjo
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1 Nov 2011 20:02 |
I have a Marjorie Clarke who was born 4th July 1902 in Massachusetts, USA. Her parents were William Henry Clarke b 1861 in UK and Kate Watson b 1868 Richmond, Yorks.
I have Marjorie Clarke on the 1910 census at Warren, Worcester Massachusetts. She was 7 years old and born in USA with her parents and sister age 6.
I also have her on the 1920 census in Jersey City Ward 9, Hudson, New Jersey. I think she lived on Sunset AVenue? Again with her parents, Marjorie was 17 years old.
I have not been able to find her on the 1930 US census, but I think she might have got married between the 1920 and 1930 census and may be under the surname Kersting.
I have her death in Woodlawn Cemetery, NY where she is down as Majory C. Kersting, age 71.
Can anyone give me the details of the 1930 census and when and where she might have married Mr. Kersting.
Many thanks Jo
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alviegal
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1 Nov 2011 20:10 |
Do you have this?
Social Security Death Index about Marjory Kersting Name: Marjory Kersting SSN: 147-36-8705 Last Residence: 07090 Westfield, Union, New Jersey, United States of America Born: 4 Jul 1902 Died: Sep 1973 State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1962)
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dizzyjo
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1 Nov 2011 20:25 |
Alviegal
Many thanks for your help with my Marjory. I do actually have the SS Death Index details. Kersting seems an odd name to me, but I might be wrong. Again many thanks Jo
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Lynne From Up North !!
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1 Nov 2011 21:48 |
For reference:
1920 US Census Name: Marjorie Clarke [Marjorie Clocker] Home in 1920: Jersey City Ward 9, Hudson, New Jersey Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Birthplace: Massachusetts Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: William H Clarke Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Name: Kate Clarke Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William H Clarke 58 [52] Kate Clarke 49 Marjorie Clarke 17 Doris Clarke 16 William P Eckies 22 Ida Eckies 23 Lillian Fallon 35 David Fallon 15 [67] Eva A Houston 64 Grace W Houston 56
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MaureeninNY
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1 Nov 2011 22:47 |
Probably a red herring: U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Vincent John Kersting Name: Vincent John Kersting Birth Date: 20 Oct 1878 Birth Place: New York City, New Jersey Residence: Union, New Jersey Race: White
Lists his wife as Marjory C Kersting. He'd be a LOT older than she is if that's your Marjory! His first wife must have died as I think she shows up as Louise on the various census.
Maureen
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dizzyjo
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2 Nov 2011 15:41 |
Lynn from up North
Thank you for the 1920 US census for reference. I did not have a note of her being down as Marjorie Clocker, so have added that to my info. Would love to find her on the 1930 census or the marriage.
Thank you very much for your help
Jo
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dizzyjo
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2 Nov 2011 15:47 |
Maureen in NY
No, I don't think the World War 2 Draft reg. card you found for Vincent John Kersting is a 'Red Herring'.
At the Woodlawn Cemetery, she is engraved as Marjory C. Kersting, so you have found the right husband. If she got married late in life, they often find someone older to live with!
On the 1930 US Census, is Vincent Kersting with Louise? Just trying to eliminate a few more years as to when they were married.
Many thanks for your help
Jo
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Thelma
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2 Nov 2011 15:58 |
1930 United States Federal Census about Vincent J Kesting Name: Vincent J Kesting Home in 1930: Roselle Park, Union, New Jersey View Map Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Louise A Kesting Race: White Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Vincent J Kesting 50 Louise A Kesting 46 Estelle B Kesting 23
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MaureeninNY
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2 Nov 2011 17:39 |
Hi Jo,
Check out: http://archive.wmlnj.org/search.cgi
If you search the archives for the Westfield Leader by decade for Kersting-short obituaries for Vincent and Marjory show up.
Don't see a marriage date,though.
Good luck, Maureen
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MaureeninNY
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2 Nov 2011 18:18 |
Oh! On Vincent's obit it mentions two step sons Paul W and Donald C ??both of Roselle Park.
Took me a while to figure out the surname,but I'm pretty sure it's: 1930 United States Federal Census about Marjory Oehlke Name: Marjory Oehlke Home in 1930: Roselle, Union, New Jersey View Map Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Massachusetts Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: Alfred P Oehlke Race: White Alfred P Oehlke 36 Marjory Oehlke 27 Paul Oehlke 5 Don Oehlke 4 3/12 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Roselle, Union, New Jersey; Roll: 1389; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 138
Maureen
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Thelma
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2 Nov 2011 18:46 |
Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001 about Oehlke Name: Oehlke no first name Gender: Female Spouse's Name: Alfred P Oehlke Divorce Date: 1941 County: Pinellas Certificate Number: 10126
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MaureeninNY
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2 Nov 2011 18:53 |
I think that must be them,Thelma,as it doesn't look as though Alfred died until: Social Security Death Index about Alfred Oehlke Name: Alfred Oehlke SSN: 136-07-5277 Last Residence: 07979 Pottersville, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States of America Born: 8 Nov 1892 Died: Jul 1969 State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)
Maureen
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Thelma
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2 Nov 2011 18:57 |
Here you go Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001 about Marjory Clark Oehlke Name: Marjory Clark Oehlke Marriage Date: 1941 County of Marriage: Hillsborough Volume: 649 Certificate: 28364 Source: Florida Department of Health
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Thelma
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2 Nov 2011 18:59 |
Well found in the 1930, Maureen
Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001 about Vincent J Kerstine Name: Vincent J Kerstine Marriage Date: 1941 County of Marriage: Hillsborough Volume: 649 Certificate: 28364 Source: Florida Department of Health
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MaureeninNY
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2 Nov 2011 19:03 |
Brilliant,Thelma!!!!!!! Great team work!!!! Must say I never would have expected to find them down in Florida!!
Maureenxx
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dizzyjo
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2 Nov 2011 20:33 |
Thelma and Maureen in NY
Gosh both of you have been busy while I have been getting the evening meal, etc etc.
Maureen - I did manage to look on the website you gave me, but I could not find the short obituaries you mentioned. Will try again later
A couple of marriages for Marjory and divorce in Florida. As you say, why Florida? I suppose they have a winter residence in Florida and a summer one in New York. I need to digest the info you have both found me.
When looking through the Westfield Leader, I found Mrs. Kersting had a busy social life!!
Thank you both very much indeed for your help.
Regards Jo
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dizzyjo
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2 Nov 2011 22:13 |
Maureen
Many thanks for those websites. Its late in UK, so will look tomorrow. Many thanks again Jo
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mgnv
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3 Nov 2011 01:28 |
Assuming you don't have Ancestry -
You can look up Kate Clarke in Berkshire MA and get her 1900 image via: https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=NORTH_AMERICA Alt http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu632unit#page/n330/mode/1up [addy=Housatonic St Lenox NB the USS Houstonic was the first vessel to be sunk by a sub, the CSS H.L.Hunley, in 1864. The Houstonic was named after the river. Houstonic St leads to the river 4km to east.] [Bro James Clarke also present, b Aug 1868 in England, immig 1887, 1 yr after Wm]
LDS look up on Massachusetts Births, 1841-1915 On the image of Doris Jane's b.entry 3/1/1904, William is a Graindealer, and both parent's pob=Yorkshire, Eng. http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po630unit#page/n907/mode/1up [addy=Gilbert Rd, Warren]
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1046unit#page/n594/mode/1up [image too stained to really see addy, but, checking on previous page, my guess is 66 Clifton Place. According to http://maps.google.com/ there street still exists in Jersey City]
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1072unit#page/n160/mode/1up [possibly next to his dad - both at 12?8 Walnut St, Roselle Park]
http://www.archive.org/stream/newjerseycensus00reel1389#page/n674/mode/1up [addy=606 Chandler Ave, Roselle - 2 (long) blks E of Walnut]
http://www.archive.org/stream/newjerseycensus00reel1390#page/n93/mode/1up [addy=128 Walnut St, Roselle Park]
NB For the stuff from www.archive.org, magnify by 4 clicks before saving image.
Note for Maureen - I went to Union City once. I'd just got off the boat with a guy who wound up giving me a lift to Wyoming, and he'd parked his car in Union City, so we got on a cab, left the quayside and shot into a tunnel and 5 mins later were in a maze of oil refineries. Talk abt a culture shock. To quote WC Fields "all things considered, I'd rather be in Co Durham".
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Thelma
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3 Nov 2011 11:21 |
I guess that you would follow her sons. U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 about Paul W Oehlke Name: Paul W Oehlke Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Aug 1924 Death Date: 3 Sep 1974 SSN: 265209629 Branch 1: ARMY Enlistment Date 1: 1 Apr 1943 Release Date 1: 23 Dec 1945 =============================== Social Security Death Index about Paul Oehlke Name: Paul Oehlke SSN: 265-20-9629 Last Residence: 07203 Roselle, Union, New Jersey, United States of America Born: 30 Aug 1924 Died: Sep 1974 State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951
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MaureeninNY
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3 Nov 2011 12:13 |
It looks like Donald might still be alive in Pottersville N.J.
Maureen
PS LOL! Malcolm-it IS rather Hades-like in that area,isn't it!!
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