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Ethel's border crossing:

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Ethel Vinell Name: Ethel Vinell
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1919
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1889
Birthplace: Newington Kent
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Departure Contact: Father Frederick Fryman
Arrival Contact: Husband Arthur Vinell

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_110

Last permanent residence: Toronto, Ontario. Had been in US before 1913-1914, Detroit Michigan. Going to husband Arthur, Box 109, Ecorse, Michigan. Had landed Quebec Canada, August 1914.

Another border crossing at Port Huron, Michigan dated Sep. 16, 1913:

Michigan Passenger and Crew Lists, 1903-1965
about Arthur Upton Vinell Name: Arthur Upton Vinell
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1912
Port of Arrival: Port Huron, Michigan
Ship Name: Corsican
Last Resided: Sault Ste Marie, England
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Location: London, England
Gender: Male
Nationality: England
Record Type: Card

Gives name of mother as Clara Vinell, 15 Edward St., Southampton, England. Going to join friend Edith Weeks, 864 Coad? Ave., Detroit, Michigan.

But wasn't his mother supposed to be remarried at this time?

Arthur & Ethel's return to Canada in 1914. Said they had been in Canada before for 2 years from 1912.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Arthur Vinell Name: Arthur Vinell
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Date of Arrival: 31 Jul 1914
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4811

Wonder if Ethel came back to the UK and stayed...here she is coming back in 1921!!!

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Ethel Vinell Name: Ethel Vinell
Birth Date: abt 1889
Age: 32
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 6 Jan 1921
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Empress of France
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136266

His naturalization record dated 8-14-35

U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
about Arthur Upton Vinell Name: Arthur Upton Vinell
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1879
State: Michigan
Locality, Court: Detroit, District Court

His mother did marry

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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DULY Jesse Tonbridge 2a 1535
Vinell Clara Upton Tonbridge 2a 1535


1911 census - household transcription
Person: DULY, Clara
Address: 5 Holden Road Southborough


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DULY, Clara Head Widow F 52 1859 St Pancras VIEW
VINELL, Jessie Upton Sister Single F 42 1869 St John Wood VIEW
HOOTON, Richard Thomas Visitor Single M 30 1881 Paison Warder Hampstead VIEW
BERESFORD, William John Visitor Single M 22 1889 Indian Goverment Labourer Lambeth VIEW
BAKER, Mable Visitor Single F 25 1886 Parlourmaid Domestic Newport Hampstead VIEW


1871 with sister Jessie

Name: Clara Vinell
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Vinell
Mother's Name: Susannah Vinell
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 229
Piece: 187
Folio: 93
Page Number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
George Vinell 39
Susannah Vinell 34
Clara Vinell 12
Albert Vinell 10
Agnes Vinell 8
Jessie Vinell 2

This border crossing is Detroit, Michigan. He gives name of nearset relative as wife Ethel Vinell, 63 Born Ave., Toronto, Ontario.

Does that make sense?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Arthur Vinell Name: Arthur Vinell
Arrival Date: 24 May 1920
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 40
Birth Date: abt 1880
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests

Hi

Looked for a death for Ethel but could not locate one I'm afraid. I also looked for Marjorie Vinell but to no avail.

Lesley

This border crossing is Port Huron, Michigan not St. Alban's, Vermont:

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Arthur Upton Vinell Name: Arthur Upton Vinell
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1913
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1883
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests

He's with wife Ethel, 25, last permanent address was Sault Ste. Marie. he was a car repairer. Nearest relative was mother, Clara, 15 Edward St., Liverborough?, England. They're heading to Detroit, Michigan.

Thats exactly what I was thinking Jax x

Hi
Thank you for everyone's help, It doesn't look like any adopted children went with them to the USA or Canada.I'll look for Nancy's death.
Like Jax I can't use parts of Ancestry, thank you Lesley. Did you happen to come across Ethel Mary's death or Arthur's second marriage which must have been after 1930, I couldn't find any referrence to these events.
Once again a big thanks to you all for your help,
Marie.

her birth??

Name: Clara Vinell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1859
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 425 (click to see others on page)

It does say she was single on the 1901 so maybe Arthur made up a father??

Nice one Jax ..... well done. I think we have to go on his death in Michigan and he does state father Arthur Vinell and mother Clara Kemp x

And to add...........Willesden comes under the Hendon Middlesex district in 1879.

1901

Name: Arthur U Oniell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Clara U Oniell
Gender: Male
Where born: Willesden, London, England

Civil parish: Southborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 756
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Clara U Oniell 42
Arthur U Oniell 21


Looks like Vinell on the image

Hmmmm.......

1881 England Census
about Arthur Upton Venell Name: Arthur Upton Venell
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: London Kilburn, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Albans St Michael
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fishpool St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1433
Folio: 29
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Kiff 59
Frederick Kiff 37
Arthur James Kiff 20
Arthur Upton Venell

Sorry Jax, missed that!

1881 census

Arthur Upton Venell born Kilburn London Boarder (no age given)

Living at Fishpool Street
St Albans
Hertfordshire

others in household

Head: Ann Kiff born c1822 Bedmond Hertordshire, Widower
Son: Frederick Kiff born c1844 St Albans Hertfordshire, Ag Lab
Son: Arthur James Kiff born c1861 St Albans Hertfordshire, Tailor

1930 United States Federal Census
about Arthur Vinell Name: Arthur Vinell
Home in 1930: Wyandotte, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Steve Cosman 58
Lena Cosman 18
Richard Cosman 19
Gerald Loggie 6
Arthur Vinell 50 lodger

1920 United States Federal Census
about Ethel Vinell Name: Ethel Vinell
[Ethel F Vinall]
Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 2, Wayne, Michigan
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Arthur Vinell
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Vinell 42
Ethel Vinell 32
Fred Marx 21 lodger

Michigan death

Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995
about Arthur U. Vinell Name: Arthur U. Vinell
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1879
Birth Place: London, England
Death Date: 7 Dec 1937
Death Place: Wyandotte, Wayne, Michigan
Burial Date: 9 Dec 1937
Cemetery Name: Woodmere
Death Age: 58
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Street Address: 266 Orange St.
Father Name: Arthur Vinell
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Name: Clara Kemp
Mother Birth Place: England
Spouse Name: Marjorie
FHL Film Number: 2115275