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Very grateful for your help if you have a John Cornelius Dickinson or Sarah Amos in your trees. They were married in 1899 in Wednesbury.

Sarah's father was Jacob and John's father had the same name. :-)

Do you have this - 1911 Census:

DICKINSON, John Cornelius Head Married M 36 1875 Coach Motor And General Ironwork Warwickshire Birmingham
DICKINSON, Sarah Wife Married 11 years F 33 1878 Staffordshire Wednesbury
DICKINSON, Edith Daughter F 10 1901 School Staffordshire Wednesbury
DICKINSON, Doris Daughter F 7 1904 School Staffordshire Wednesbury
DICKINSON, May Daughter F 2 1909 Staffordshire Wednesbury

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17342 Reference:
RG14PN17342 RG78PN1063 RD371 SD5 ED14 SN131

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Wednesbury Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Wednesbury

Address:
11 Handley Street Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Sarah Amos in 1881:

WOOD, Edmund Head Married M 57 1824 Publican Dursley Gloucestershire
WOOD, Mary Ann Wife Married F 61 1820 West Bromwich Staffordshire
AMOS, Mary A Servant Married F 23 1858 General Servant Wednesbury
Staffordshire
>>>AMOS, Sarah Servant Daughter Single F 3 1878 Wednesbury
Staffordshire
AMOS, Edith Servant Daughter Single F 1 1880 Wednesbury Staffordshire

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Piece:
2854 Folio:
84 Page:
13 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:

Address:
16, Camp Street, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Thank you for this.

I have this. Funny though, May was Ehthel Mary? Records ah!

I'm very grateful Thanks again.

Marriage of Sarah's parents?

Marriages Jun 1877
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Amos Jacob W. Bromwich 6b 992
Rose Mary Ann W. Bromwich 6b 992

Possible birth for Sarah's mother?

Births Mar 1858
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Rose Mary Ann W Bromwich 6b 677

Mary Ann Rose in 1871?

William is a forgeman, ironworks. On the image they are dittoed as born Staffordshire, but it could be a communal ditto to mean Staffordshire, Wednesbury, from the entry above William's.

ROSE, William Head M 38 1833 Staffordshire
ROSE, Susannah Wife F 37 1834 Staffordshire
ROSE, William Son M 18 1853 Staffordshire
ROSE, Charles Son M 15 1856 Staffordshire
ROSE, Mary Ann Daughter F 14 1857 Staffordshire
ROSE, Alice Daughter F 10 1861 Staffordshire
ROSE, James Son M 5 1866 Staffordshire
ROSE, Helen Daughter F 4 1867 Staffordshire
ROSE, Susannah Daughter F 0 1871 Staffordshire

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Piece:
2991 Folio:
31 Page:
16 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:

Address:
King Street, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire



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Have you put John and Sarah into your tree? I can't see them when I Search Trees on this site.

That is the best place to look for other members who may have a connection to you.

Jacob, and Mary Ann in 1891, no Sarah, but daur Edith c 1880 from the 1881 census posted previously is there:

AMOS, Jacob Head Married M 36 1855 Blacksmiths Striker Wednesbury
Staffordshire
AMOS, Mary A Wife Married F 34 1857 Wednesbury Staffordshire
AMOS, Edith Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
AMOS, Sydney E Son Single M 3 1888 Wednesbury Staffordshire
AMOS, Mary A Daughter Single F 0 (7M) 1891 Wednesbury Staffordshire
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Piece:
2276 Folio:
39 Page:
32 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:
Wednesbury Address:
1, 4 Court, Camp Street, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Off to watch Garrow's Law, now there's no Downton Abbey.

I keep coming back to this Jacob Amos, even though he says he's single.

In the 1871 census for the same family, Jacob's birthplace is given as Wolverhampton:

Census 1881:

AMOS, John Head Married M 59 1822 Miner Darlaston
AMOS, Sarah Wife Married F 57 1824 Miners Wife Birmingham Warwickshire
AMOS, Lot Son Single M 15 1866 Striker (B Smith) Wednesbury
AMOS, Jacob Son Single M 25 1856 Tube Maker (Gas) Sedgely
Staffordshire

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Piece:
2853 Folio:
112 Page:
32 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough

Address:
11, Hitchen Croft, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Now can you see where I get lost? :-D Totally confused. One minute they are there and they are gone.

On Sarah's marriage certificate it say Jacob deceased in 1899. Profession states Jacob as a mechanic but she marries an iron worker which fits in with the Amos family.

Sarah wasn't with her parents Jacob and Mary Ann in 1891, as she was working as a servant. Interesting that the boarder where she worked was in the gas tube trade, as was the 'single' Jacob Amos from 1881.


MUCKLEY, David Head Married M 47 1844 Engine Fitter And Turner
Wednesbury Staffordshire
MUCKLEY, Mary Wife Married F 71 1820 West Bromwich Staffordshire
MUCKLEY, Stephen Son M 14 1877 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire
MUCKLEY, Moses Son M 11 1880 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire
MUCKLEY, Albert Son M 10 1881 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire
MUCKLEY, Jemima Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
>>>AMOS, Sarah Servant F 13 1878 General Servant Domestic
Wednesbury Staffordshire
WOOD, Ewin Boarder Single M 26 1865 Furnace Man Gas Tube Trade
Berkley Gloucestershire

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Piece:
2277 Folio:
89 Page:
26 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:
Wednesbury Address:
1, Brunswick Park Road, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

FreeBMD has Jacob's death:

Deaths Dec 1895
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Amos Jacob 41 W. Bromwich 6b 552

Wow! You are a star! Do you do this for a living. A servant at 13? Who needs Downton! :-D My grandfather (on the other side) I am searching had a maid to look after him. How strange :-D

This is the only FreeBMD birth I could find for Jacob Amos. It ties in with the birthplace of gas tube Jacob as Wolverhampton in 1871.


Births Dec 1854
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Amos Jacob Wolverhampton 6b 340

Just using freeBMD at this site for Births, marriages and deaths:


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Thanks for your help! As I see it there are 2 possible Jacob's and Sarah's?

I'll plot it out tomorrow but I think this is where I get stuck.... :-S

My gut feeling is that 'single' Jacob in 1871/1881 is actually the Jacob who was married to Mary Ann Rose, but you might need to get their marriage cert from 1877 that I posted, to confirm both his occupation and that of his father, along with his father's name.

Also, although a gas tube worker in 71/81, that Jacob's younger brother Lot worked for a blacksmith, as did YOUR Jacob in census 1891.

I really feel you need to get that marriage cert (and possibly Sarah's birth cert as well).

Unfortunately there are two possibilities for Sarah's birth ref:


Births Dec 1877
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AMOS Sarah West Bromwich 6b 883

and

Births Jun 1878
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Amos Sarah Ann W. Bromwich 6b 892


So I really would be tempted to go with the marriage cert first.

Jacob Amos is sufficiently distinctive a name for it to be unlikely two of them of similar age would both be living in or near Wednesbury.