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There is a possible birth for Sarah Ellen under the name of Birchall, but nothing conclusive for Gladys?

Births Jun 1894
Birchall Sarah Ellen Prescot 8b 707

Doesn't help find a marriage but just in case you don't have this:-

Baptisms: 25 Mar 1860 All Saints, Rainford, Lancashire, England
Thomas Cook Birchall - Son of Thomas Birchall & Margaret
Born: 23 Feb 1860
Abode: Rainford
Occupation: Butcher
Baptised by: S. Cavan
Register: Baptisms 1840 - 1861, Page 189, Entry 1506
Source: LDS Film 1657568

Detail
Register: Baptisms 1840 - 1861, Page 189, Entry 1506


his family in 1861:-
1861 for reference

BIRCHALL, Thomas Head Married M 27 1834 Butcher
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
BIRCHALL, Margaret Wife Married F 24 1837
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
BIRCHALL, William Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
BIRCHALL, Margaret Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
BIRCHALL, Thomas Son M 1 1860
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
Piece:
2755 Folio:
43 Page:
16 Registration District:
Prescot

Civil Parish:
Rainford Municipal Borough:
Address:
Chapel Lane, Rainford County:
Lancashire

Did the Sarah Ellen b1894 die?

Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%)
Birchall Sarah Ellen 0 Prescot 8b 444

did you find the rest og the Rowson family in 1891?

there is an eliza mgee in west derby on the 1911 census born in 1868 , i don't have access to the census proper so I can't see who is with her or what place of birth that it gives her but seemingly she is not with others called mcgee.
can anyone access this census1911

This one?

Looks like her maiden name may have been Pickles, and she was born Oldham:

MCGEE, Eliza Wife Married 21 years F 43 1868 Liverpool Lancashire
PICKLES, Elizabeth Sister Single F 53 1858 Oldham Lancashire
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Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Wavertree
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Wavertree

Address: 46 Granville Road Wavertree Liverpool County: Lancashire

Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
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HARGRAVES Lucy Liverpool 8b 241
HUGHES Howard Liverpool 8b 241
McGee James Liverpool 8b 241
Pickles Eliza Liverpool 8b 241




1911

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NEWMAN, Simon Head Married M 83 1828 Sea Man Newcastle VIEW
NEWMAN, Jessie Wife Married
21 years F 66 1845 Scotland Findon VIEW
NEWMAN, Samuel Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Newcastle VIEW
TURNER, Robert Boarder Single M 45 1866 Carter Newcastle VIEW
MCGEE, James Boarder Married M 45 1866 Labourer Cumb Workington VIEW
WADDINGTON, John Waite Boarder Single M 26 1885 Clogger Lancs Everton VIEW
NIXON, Joseph Boarder Single M 27 1884 Labourer Newcastle VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30633 Reference:
RG14PN30633 RG78PN1754 RD558 SD4 ED18 SN171

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Nicholas Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
St Nicholas

Address:
Castle Square County:
Northumberland

Regards vera

thank you so much for all your help :-D
I have found Thomas Birchall on 1861 census but not again til 1911.Have found Rowson family in 1871 and 1881 census.
Apart from 1911 census for Gladys,cant find her anywhere else.But her surname could be something else??
I have just found me "Pickles"Eliza Pickles married to James Mcgee 1889 by jove that could be it!!If I get the cert.it will have her fathers name on. :-DI really appreciate all those that have spared the time to help.

Elizas father thomas died 3q 1881 stoke on trent aged 55 freebmd 6b 129

how did rowson become pickles?

Thank you.So Elizas father as deceased on her marriage to Thomas in 1914 is correct!I know its not always,they tended to tell porkies at times :-)

Mmmmmm how did Rowson become Pickles !!!!!!!!!

where is elizas mother eliza in 1891 and where is her uncle charles allerton b 1838
perhaps eliza is with them with a mistranscribed name. It has happened before.I didn't find a death for eliza senior in the stoke on trent area, so perhpas they moved

How do you know that Eliza was born in longton staffs? and that the censusof 1881 was her family?

It seems that charles allertonb stoke 1838 was still in longton in 1891. but again I don't have full access to the census.

perhaps a view of that census will show if either eliza is still with him.
He may have taken over the fathers role for eliza

on 4 oct 1881 a charles allerton married sarah wass aged 36 in dresden ( almost Longton- borders it)
but it seems that it was a different charles allerton.
eliza's uncle had father thomas allerton - yes another thomas and the one who married sarah had father samuel

found Charles in 1891 census and 1901 census,but no Eliza.with him.Gonna have to cook some dinner now,will be back!kind regards to all.

Here's that 1889 Pickles/McGee marriage:

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Eliza Pickles, spinster of Dansie Street
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 29 Jul 1889
Parish: Liverpool St Silas, Pembroke Place
Spouse's Name: James McGee, bachelor. A mariner from S Paul Sq
Father's Name: Gustavas Pickles < French Polisher
Spouse Father's Name: Robert McGee (Deceased) Carpenter

** Suppose it rules this one out.

If the 1914 marriage cert. states that Eliza's father was Thomas Rowson, then surely the marriage Pickles/McGee can not be her!

Here she is in:-
1871

Name: Eliza Rowson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Rowson
Mother's Name: Eliza Rowson
Gender: Female
Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2874
Folio: 72
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Rowson 44
Eliza Rowson 44
Eliza Rowson 2
Albert Rowson 6 Months
Hannah Davenport 18 - Niece

seems Eliza wasnt a Pickle after all!Think i will try and get her birth cert.will verify her parents names.How she got from Rowson to Mcgee is a mystery.Not unless her real father was a Mcgee and Rowson step father..........kind regards to all :-) :-)