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Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Dec 2011 15:57

Please Carry on talking to each other I'll come in when you have sorted it out
I only have the 2 children on the 1911 census not looked into other children yet

Thank you :-)

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2011 15:58

I gave you the birth for Vera in 1922 so she would not be on the 1911

jax

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Dec 2011 16:05

Thank you for all that

Don't know how you do it but it is appreciated

Sylvia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Dec 2011 16:07

You don't sound too interested in what we found, Sylann! You did ask why Kezia went to USA. We have proved that she went to visit her daughter Vera who married R.L. Overholser.

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Dec 2011 16:28

I am Sorry if I've give the wrong impression

I didn't expect so much info,I'm just putting it in place, I think the 1911 census through me a bit with May Clegg Niece ,

I've found it really interesting how you can get so much, think I just thought she'd be travelling with family and that would be the end of it.

All this takes some digesting

Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 16:32

For some reason he's not listed next to his mother, but this seems to be Vera's son accompanying her in 1953:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Michael Overholser
Birth Date: abt 1948
Age: 5
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1953
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Britannic

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 16:38

They seemed to be back and forth:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Vera Overholser
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1950
Birth Year: abt 1922
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Georgic

Michael age 2 was with her. Same address in Sterling, Illinois as before.

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2011 16:38

Maybe she came over for her fathers funeral

Name: Alfred Clegg
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1953
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 183

No maybe not they would have missed it

:-) :-)

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 11 Dec 2011 16:39

I'm stopping now in the interests of the living people we're discussing!!!

Maureen

PS-You'll note that one Over* child was born in the UK in '53?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 11 Dec 2011 16:41

Oh! Jax! That makes sense!

Maureen

PS Maybe not for the funeral but certainly because of the death?

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2011 16:46

Vera went back in 1954 with the two children

jax

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 16:53

I believe this is Vera's husband:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Richard L. Overholser
SSN: 334-05-8190
Last Residence: 44109 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States of America
Born: 7 Mar 1913
Died: 3 May 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)

I believe the L stands for Leon (used other sources)

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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007

Name: Richard L Overholser
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1913
Birth State: Illinois
Birth Country: United States
Gender: Male
Race: White
Hispanic Origin: Not Hispanic (Latino)
Death Date: 3 May 1998
Death Time: 03:34 AM
Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities
City of Death: Lakewood
County of Death: Cuyahoga
Certificate: 036729
Age at Death: 85
Certifier: Physician
Hospital Status: Other/Nursing Home
Social Security Number: 334-05-8190
Father's Surname: Overholser
Mother's Maiden Name: Leota
Marital Status: Widowed
Education: 12
Armed Forces Indicator: Yes
Branch of Service: Army
Industry of Decedent: Blast furnaces, steelworks, rolling and finishing mills
Occupation of Decedent: Managers and administrators not elsewhere classified
Census Tract: 1059
Primary Registration District: 1802

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Dec 2011 16:56

Thank you yet again

Where do you get all this info from I know it's an age thing but I get so far and then the wall comes up,
as you say the children could still be living

This will keep me quiet for a bit putting it into place

Sylvia

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 17:05

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

Name: Richard L Overholser
Birth Year: 1913
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Illinois
State of Residence: Illinois
County or City: Whiteside

Enlistment Date: 13 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Illinois
Enlistment City: Chicago
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Machinists
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 76
Weight: 163

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 17:10

Richard with family in 1920 (have removed other siblings in case still alive)

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Richard Overholzer [Richard Overholser]
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1920: Genesee, Whiteside, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: James C Overholzer
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Name: Lena L Overholzer
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky

Household Members: Name Age
James C Overholzer 40
Lena L Overholzer 37

Richard Overholzer 6

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Dec 2011 17:11

Wow every time I think you've finished their 's more, think I'll have to print all this out so I don't miss anything

Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 17:22

Quite possibly Richard Leon's father's death:

Social Security Death Index

Name: James Overholser
SSN: 331-32-1268
Last Residence: 61081 Sterling, Whiteside, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 23 Jan 1879
Died: Jun 1967
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1955-1956)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 17:27

Richard Leon's graduation?

http://www.sterlingpublicschools.org/shs/gradprog/1931.pdf

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2011 17:35

And that's about it!

Still need to find out about May Clegg .........

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2011 17:49

Where does it say May Clegg 1907 neice? Ethel May is listed as daughter

This is her birth

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
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CLEGG Ethel May Manchester 8d 218

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